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Old 06-19-2014, 11:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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LeBron James reportedly doesn’t want to take a salary cut in order to save Heat owner Micky Arison money. That’s apparently not a new concern.

It’s been festering.

The Heat paid the luxury tax the previous two years, and they’ll pay it again this season. But in the last year, they’ve really dialed back their spending.

•They amnestied Mike Miller.
•Instead of using a draft pick to upgrade their roster, they used it as a sweetener to unload Joel Anthony’s contract.
•They didn’t use the mid-level exception, their primary tool for adding another rotation-caliber player.

Miami has allowed its roster to stagnate and age, creating a lack of depth really showed in the Finals.

If the Heat had spent more to build a deeper team, maybe they’d be NBA champions – and not waiting on a mum LeBron.

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a victory for the Heat at this stage likely means getting James to commit for one more season. Again, this is not ideal. When that infamous “not five, not six …” speech was delivered, James was under the impression that he would be staying in Miami for a second long-term contract. Despite a strong and historic run, James isn’t ready to commit to that given the current state of the team.

The Heat are the favorites; this is not in question. But there is a window of doubt due to the way the season ended, Wade’s health and some bitterness James harbors that Micky Arison put the brakes on spending over the past year.

That is why his most likely path is to opt out of his contract after the draft so that he will maximize his flexibility while putting teams on the clock.

This would force the Heat to take action on the free-agent market to improve the roster and, essentially, spend money even though they are facing significant luxury-tax penalties. It would also buy time for James to meet with other teams and examine plans and for rival teams to make trades or signings to potentially make them more attractive. Some deals are more likely to happen in July rather than in late June.

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Like Windhorst, I believe LeBron will stay with the Heat, the odds-on favorite to keep him. Nearly all the reasons he signed with Miami in 2010 remain in place.

But this is absolutely a time to apply pressure.

Chasing Carmelo Anthony has been presented as a way to upgrade the roster. But if Miami creates cap room to sign him, there’s nearly no way they’ll pay the luxury tax season. It’s just too difficult, under Collective Bargaining Agreement Rules, to dip that far below the salary cap and then exceed the luxury-tax line within a single year. It’s not coincidence the Heat didn’t pay the tax in their first year with LeBron, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.

Really, a run at Melo is a great stealth way to trim payroll.

In 2015-16, especially if LeBron signs a reduced one-year contract this summer and then sought to re-up for a max deal once Melo was in the fold, the tax hit could be large. But maybe by then, Arison will have found other ways to trim salary. Would LeBron give Arison a year’s cushion on the hope spending increased the following year?

LeBron could opt out now, and that would really apply pressure on the Heat. But if they’re not motivated already, something is wrong.

The big three, especially LeBron, generate a lot of revenue for Arison. That doesn’t mean Arison must spend like the Nets to appease them, but quite likely, being thrifty and losing LeBron would be a net loss.

LeBron is just reminding Arison of that fact. If he opts out to really hammer it home, so be it.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pat Riley addressed the media on Thursday following the end of the Miami Heat season.

Riley first began by talking about how so many of the great teams such as the Los Angeles Lakers and Boston Celtics of the 1980s, Chicago Bulls of the 1990s, San Antonio Spurs of the late 1990s to present and Los Angeles Lakers of the late 1990s to the present have finished more seasons without a title than winning one.

"You have to stay together if you have the guts," said Riley. And you don't find the first door and run out of it."

LeBron James has the ability to become a free agent this summer, which puts the future of the Heat on uncertain footing.

"We need to re-tool. We don't need to rebuild," said Riley.

The Heat have won two titles and lost two others since James joined the franchise along with Chris Bosh.
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Lebrons the last player in the NBA who should take a pay cut. If they actually offered him anything less than the max than they don't deserve him. The only way where he should take a paycut is if it's already pre determined that they can get a 4th star if all 3 of the big 3 take paycuts, then you can bring the proposal to Lebron, but otherwise an empty promise or just asking him to take less is asinine.
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Lebrons the last player in the NBA who should take a pay cut.------- The only way where he should take a paycut is if it's already pre determined that they can get a 4th star if all 3 of the big 3 take paycuts, then you can bring the proposal to Lebron, but otherwise an empty promise or just asking him to take less is asinine.
I disagree and agree with you. If Lebron has to take a pay cut, then wade and Bosh deff need to take pay cuts....but at the same time, if lebron is truly serious about winning championships then, I would say cutting his salary in half to about 10/year in order to sign 10 million in additional contracts, then he should to do it.

The heat, as constructed are in the worst shape regarding winning a championship since the big 3 formed...why you ask? because Bosh has regressed and is straight up kind of a little bitch. HE is not the 20/10 Bosh that left Toronto...and Wade, well Wade is on a serious medical downhill run at this point. He only played 54 games this year, could not play in a single back to back, and who knows how much longer his knees are going to last before he's in crutches. Adding to all that the fact that the east, up until this point has been a total joke, and the only realchallenge for the heat this year was playing in the Finals, and they got record breakingly blown out by the spurs. The east will be stronger next year, and mimai wont be lucky enough to play a team like the old man Nets and the broken down, unable to score pacers to get to the finals....Imagine if one or two series went 7 games before the finals...wade would have had to basic sit out the entire series at that point.

but hey, I'm down, Miami is bullshit and I'm tired of watching these guys constantly make it to the finals. I think theres a lot of resent and hatred floating around the Miami dressing room, and the fact that Lebron was basic on his own (A la Cavs) prob pisses him off the most out of anything....I just read an article that comented on his this season was not fun for the heat, it was straight work....

and commenting on what PR said about other teams not winning championships more years then they won....the only problem with that statement is that when theose teams (Spurs, MJ, Kobe) made it to the finals, they basicly always won.

Finals Appearances/Wins

MJ: 6/6
Kobe: 7/5
Duncan: 6/5
LBJ: 5/2
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I can't blame the owner for wanting to save money, its a business first and Miami ain't a big marjet , I doubt he makes that much profit. Also to last comment, why does it matter lebrons 5/2 in finals? What about those times he choked and didn't even make it lol, shouldn't we be using 10/2?
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LBJ's contract isn't an issue really, Bosh is pushing it but Wade....love the guy but he's useless now unless he can find a way to rebuild his knees over the next few months which ain't happening. He could have spent the last few years reinventing his game but it's just not in him to change that aggressive style. Now, he's been rendered useless when it counts - worse, what was he -54 in the finals? The dude missed a 1/3 of the past season and even that didn't help his cause in the playoffs.

The Heat need additions and upgrades - too bad they couldn't dump Wade cause imo that's addition by subtraction (or have him off the bench but he's not worth more than the mid imo). Then they'd actually have some money to go after someone.

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Wade has nothing left to help them win again, I wouldn't want to team up with him again either if I'm trying to win. The guy is hurt more than healthy, and never 100%
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Losing Miller really changed the nature of the team. With Miller in tow, and Battier and Allen still able to bring something, Bosh and Wade could take turns as sixth men of sorts leading a decent bench. That took a lot of weight off Lebron's shoulders in years past. By amnestying Miller and cheaping out for the most part, they just ended up milking Lebron. I get Riley's point, but really it's more of a tactic than anything else to force Lebron to look past the mishandling of the past season. It's ultimately up to the cruise guy and Riles to put up or shut up in a hurry.
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Lol that LBJ should take a cut and not get the max. He should give them the finger if they suggest it.
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Lol that LBJ should take a cut and not get the max. He should give them the finger if they suggest it.
wade and Bosh should get to the absolute min before LBJ is less than max
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Old 06-20-2014, 04:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Wade should accept the 6xtan role but his ego is too big. Having wade as a sixth man would be good for a team whose bench couldn't produce shit.

Maybe Riley may go after luol who likely wants a championship then a huge paycheck. Having Deng is much better then melo, solid scorer and great defender
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LeBron wants to be given a championship. He's not going to get it with the current Miami roster. They need a major move to re-vitalize the gimpy Dwayne Wade. LeBron needs to be next to 2 or 3 of the best players in the League.

My forecast for LeBron's new decision... Oklahoma City Thunder

Westbrook
new SG of their choosing (Afflalo, E. Bledsoe, etc.)
Durant
King James
Ibaka

play with the lineups, move Durant to the 2, scariest team in the NBA
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LeBron wants to be given a championship. He's not going to get it with the current Miami roster. They need a major move to re-vitalize the gimpy Dwayne Wade. LeBron needs to be next to 2 or 3 of the best players in the League.

My forecast for LeBron's new decision... Oklahoma City Thunder

Westbrook
new SG of their choosing (Afflalo, E. Bledsoe, etc.)
Durant
King James
Ibaka

play with the lineups, move Durant to the 2, scariest team in the NBA
Okc owner. Didn't want to spend for harden, what makes you think he would spend for lebron and affalo/bleddoe lol
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LeBron wants to be given a championship. He's not going to get it with the current Miami roster. They need a major move to re-vitalize the gimpy Dwayne Wade. LeBron needs to be next to 2 or 3 of the best players in the League.

My forecast for LeBron's new decision... Oklahoma City Thunder

Westbrook
new SG of their choosing (Afflalo, E. Bledsoe, etc.)
Durant
King James
Ibaka

play with the lineups, move Durant to the 2, scariest team in the NBA
Westbrook: 15 mil
Bledsoe or Affalo: 8mil
Durant: 19mil
LeBron: 20-25mil (Assuming)
Ibaka: 12mil

That approx 76 mil without the other 8 players.
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Westbrook: 15 mil
Bledsoe or Affalo: 8mil
Durant: 19mil
LeBron: 20-25mil (Assuming)
Ibaka: 12mil

That approx 76 mil without the other 8 players.
Nets did it, so can OKC.
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Nets did it, so can OKC.
Nets are also in a huge market with richest owner in the league who throws money like its recycled paper. Okc couldn't eve resign harden/ Kevin Martin. Doubt they go that deep in luxary tax
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Nets are also in a huge market with richest owner in the league who throws money like its recycled paper. Okc couldn't eve resign harden/ Kevin Martin. Doubt they go that deep in luxary tax
Deng would look good on a lot of teams, I'd think OKC would be another nice fit for him.
Westbrook, Jackson, Deng, Durant, Ibaka wouldn't be too shabby and if they wanted to go big they could go with Westbrook, Deng, Durant, Ibaka, Perkins with Reggie sparking the bench.

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I didn't even realize that they cheaped out like that this year besides amnestying Miller. If I were the Heat, I'd be praying Wade opts our so they can kick his ass to the curb. He was awful in the finals; he made dumb mistakes and then whined at officials, he couldn't hit a shot to save his life, his body language was not that of a good teammate.

Actually, I take that back. They should offer him a contract that reflects his actual value. And then trade him for a real role player.
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I didn't even realize that they cheaped out like that this year besides amnestying Miller. If I were the Heat, I'd be praying Wade opts our so they can kick his ass to the curb. He was awful in the finals; he made dumb mistakes and then whined at officials, he couldn't hit a shot to save his life, his body language was not that of a good teammate.

Actually, I take that back. They should offer him a contract that reflects his actual value. And then trade him for a real role player.
wade whined at officials and made dumb mistakes by not getting back on D? how is this new

honestly his body language showed he doesnt give a fk if they won or lost, he already has 3 rings, cemented himself as a top 5 SG, IMO , i think hes still playing to cash dem checks in.

also, if you think he leaving miami by trade, you know nothing about pat riley philosophy
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Uh oh miami....time for LeBron to take his talents somewhere else to try and get some new friends to help him win titles.
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