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Kirby

Kevin Love to LAL...

Toby

Kevin Love for the #1 pick, Adam Silver approves only if Kyrie is traded for Pau Gasol.

MBailey85

If the feeling is Lowry will test the market,since LA already has interest in him,a trade if possible,for that pick,would be good for the Raps.

Raptorman

Not good for the Raps. Just better than getting nothing for KL.

KL resigning is better than that pick.

MBailey85

Well,basically...you're right RapMan

LOG

I love Lowry , but if he is hesistant to re-sign, trade for Lakers pick would be no brainer. Don't see why would they do it though

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN

Why would the Lakers trade a pick for Lowry in the offseason?

They will just outbid Toronto for him this offseason if they want him.

This is not a Chris Bosh, LBJ, etc situation, where they need the other team help to add the player to the Max.

Raptors will either bring Lowry back or get nothing. If Raptors wanted Lakers lottery pick, they would have needed to deal Lowry at the trade deadline.

MBailey85

Good and valid points,

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN

Hopefully in the end Lakers get nothing, meaning, Lowry staying in Toronto!

Raptorman

Cant Toronto give KL more than anyone else? Sign and trade?

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN

Yes but his deal will not get that high. KL is not going to get the MAX. So teams don't have to worry about that. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong there.

If Lakers want Lowry, they will try to sign him. They will make their offer and Toronto will make their offer. They don't need Toronto help to get Lowry on their roster. They have the cap, they will offer Lowry a #. Should be more afraid of Lakers offering Lowry a # Toronto doesn't want to offer Lowry. Because maybe Lowry goes to the highest bidder.

How much does Toronto value Lowry at? Do you want to go over 10M per year for 4 years? That is the better question. How much is Lowry worth.

The only advantage Toronto has over teams right now for Lowry is he is here right now and enjoying it. Once FA starts, he is a free man and hopefully Toronto offers him enough money where he wants to come back.

Bill Haverchuck

Lowry will probably get Lawson or Holiday type of money, so over $10 mill per. Lakers can offer that. If he has a good playoffs, I think the Raptors have to keep him around even at that price.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN

Right now if you read Lakers forum, their dream offseason is

1. Sign Lowry & Deng in FA
2. Find a way to trade for Kevin Love with their first and other expiring deals.

Lowry/Kobe/Deng/Love/Center

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN

Agreed.

That is a good question though, what # would you offer Lowry if you were Toronto GM?

Would you do Ty Lawson deal, 4yr 48mil(12 mil per) for Lowry? If not, another team could do that and maybe Lowry follows the money. Basically what is the MAX you would offer Lowry, for a 4year deal?


A team could get crazy, have salary cap, and offer him 4yr 56+ million or something. I doubt it happens, but crazy things do happen when teams fall in love with players.

Bill Haverchuck

It's a tough question, man. But I think his agent is going to point to the Lawson and Holiday deals and be like "yo, Lowry is as good as them." And he's probably right. Conley is underpaid, so his salary isn't a good reference point.

Right now, assuming he doesn't bomb in the playoffs, I'd probably cave and eventually give him Lawson $, although I'd start the biding lower to see if he might accept lower per year, maybe with a 5th year added.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN

It really is. One thing you could make against Lawson point, is Lawson was 25 when he signed his deal, Lowry will be 28. Not sure how much that plays into it, but maybe a little bit? His agent probably will laugh at that though.

I think the Lawson deal will be is what he gets or close to it. I agree starting low and then at the end going to 4yr 48mi if need be.


Speaking of Conley, yep he is underpaid, Memphis got lucky with him. They offered him a deal at the perfect time. Conley would have been better off to signing a shorter extension and then getting paid again. Easier to say that now since we know how good he is, so can't blame him for signing that 5yr extension back then and making sure he was getting paid.

The crazy thing about the conley deal, was I remember A LOT of people were against giving him that 5yr 45million extension, once he agreed to it. Were they wrong, now Memphis is loving him at 9MIL per year.

Bill Haverchuck

On a related note, it sucks that Lowry might cost more to keep than we thought a couple of months ago. But, Grievas is playing a lot better now too, and he might cost more to keep. Plus, we're probably gonna want to keep Patterson for depth, especially if he plays well in the playoffs.

I would REALLY like to keep Vasquez as a backup, because he can also play a bit of SG. Vasquez seems like a guy who can torch second units at the price Calderon should have been paid (MLE $). And the quality depth will be essential to sustaining our record next year, as some other teams bounce back with players returning from injury, or gaining talent elsewhere. Run SG/SF rotation where almost all minutes go to Vasquez, Derozan, Ross next year...

The point is, I'm already coming to terms with us not having the nice cap space I once thought we might have in the summer of 2015. So might as well spend what it takes to keep Lowry.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN

Better question is what if Lowry goes off in playoffs? Lets say Raptors beat Nets and he is MVP of the series. Then Raptors take Heat to 6 games and Lowry puts up huge #s.

His stock will be as high as possible and his agent will have ALL the marbles on his side. Could be a huge bidding war.

MBailey85

Agreed with the Lawson/Holiday comparisons. I hate to be pessimistic but I think Raps will have an uphill battle in keeping Lowry. In a prime market where he is more visible on national American TV Kyle is a star(and All Star) the way he has played. Let's say if the Raps offer 4/44(11 on avg),he might take a 4/38 or 4/40 to play in California,considering all the other perks. He could easily make up for the extra 4M to play in Canada from endorsements and other ventures. He wasn't drafted by the Raps or started his career in TO,my guess is there probably isn't as much loyalty to stay here as let's say someone like DeRozan or Valanciunas in the future.