Kobe - Rapist or All Round Good Guy?
Old 02-12-2008, 12:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Gilbert Arenas is a fucking clown!

I like the guy, he's fun to watch, and funny as a talking head, but he's a clown. He's like Kobe Bryant, only with all of the bad parts (minus the raping women) magnified: the selfishness, the bad shot selection, etc.

While the Ollie comment is funny, it's also laughably inacurate. Yeah, Ollie had a good assist to turnover ratio, but he never averaged 9 dimes or shot higher than the low 40's in percentage. Jose is a starter quality PG, I'm sure every GM in the league would concur at this point...
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Old 02-12-2008, 02:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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kobe never raped any1 foo, i hate when ppl say that!
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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kobe never raped any1 foo, i hate when ppl say that!

Yeah, a 6'8 225lbs. man forcing himself on a woman and sodomizing her against her will doesn't qualify as rape.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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kobe never raped any1 foo, i hate when ppl say that!
You were there?

Neither of us know the truth, deal w/ it.

Kobe's a great player, but a shady character.
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You were there?

Neither of us know the truth, deal w/ it.

Kobe's a great player, but a shady character.
Fair assessment...he's either guilty of rape or adultery..either way not a shining humanitarian but he can ball.
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Yeah, a 6'8 225lbs. man forcing himself on a woman and sodomizing her against her will doesn't qualify as rape.
Yea too bad she had all kinds of different semen in her panties, along with the fact she got scared to go thru with the whole thing at the last min.... whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty which he wasnt... i could falsely accuse something on you, wouldnt make you guilty... as for cheating, well yea, but i think he's not the only athlete/celebrity/politician/human being to be doing that, to judge a persons whole life on it makes you lower then him.
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Yea too bad she had all kinds of different semen in her panties, along with the fact she got scared to go thru with the whole thing at the last min.... whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty which he wasnt... i could falsely accuse something on you, wouldnt make you guilty... as for cheating, well yea, but i think he's not the only athlete/celebrity/politician/human being to be doing that, to judge a persons whole life on it makes you lower then him.
Hey if a girl says, "No or Stop," you stop, not force yourself upon them and then say well I didn't realize she really meant "no". That's a fact and something Kobe admitted to. And it must be nice having million dollar lawyers to get you off the hook by starting a smear campaign against the accuser and being able to pay someone millions of dollars to go away. I suppose next you're going to tell me OJ's innocent too.

And busting on Shaq to the cops was cool too.

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Old 02-13-2008, 08:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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[quote=ACIEEARL40;10032] That's a fact and something Kobe admitted to.QUOTE]

I hate to keep highlighting your stuff but exactly! As I said he was either guilty of adultery or rape...both of which are inexcusable. The trial was very public and when celebrities are invovled who really knows if the truth was discovered.
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I hate to keep highlighting your stuff but exactly! As I said he was either guilty of adultery or rape...both of which are inexcusable. The trial was very public and when celebrities are invovled who really knows if the truth was discovered.

Great minds think alike.
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Old 02-14-2008, 12:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yea too bad she had all kinds of different semen in her panties, along with the fact she got scared to go thru with the whole thing at the last min.... whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty which he wasnt... i could falsely accuse something on you, wouldnt make you guilty... as for cheating, well yea, but i think he's not the only athlete/celebrity/politician/human being to be doing that, to judge a persons whole life on it makes you lower then him.
I used to take the "well she had semen from different guys" defense too, but by GF set me straight.

Look at it from the woman's perspective. She has no leg to stand on. Before it even came out Kobe's lawyers started a smear campaign against her.
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The settling out of court thing, and the fact that she pulled out of the process does not indict the victim in any way -- her name and character would have been dragged through the mud, etc. Maybe she'd win in court, maybe not; regardless she'd be up against a team of lawyers whose job is to discredit her and make her look bad.

Finally, while we all have this view that her having semen from multiple guys in her panties = whore, what about the reverse? It's magically OK for NBA players to be 'playas' but if a woman is horny and sleeps with more than one guy in a night, she's instantly viewed by society as a whore. Double standard, hello?

Maybe she slept with one guy willingly (or two?), then got guilted into sex with Kobe when she just wanted to make out or whatever. There's a million different possibilities, and while Kobe was not proven guilty, that does not automatically mean it was a false accusation.

Just try to look at it from the reverse perspective. Plus, Kobe is the one with all of the power in this situation. His lawyers and the NBA want it to be quiet. It would be awful if Kobe, one of the best players in the NBA and current golden boys of the NBA (look at how many tickets he sells in LA and draws on the road) is a convicted rapist. It's just bad bad bad for the NBA's image. Let alone Kobe being convicted of rape leads to a bunch of other bad misleading stereotypes of NBA players (they aren't all rapists!!! Many are good citizens - look at Chris Bosh!).
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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if you do this with your boyfriend at prom night - I might buy it. But come on, you have this guy who's reputation alone is worth millions, you go to his room, start making out and then you change your mind ??? What did she think, they will kiss a little and then wait a couple more months until they move to next base ?
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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oh boy.

Kobe rape stuff. I got nothing, except to reiterate the fact that the girl got destryoed by his defence and pr people outside of the courtroom in the media which is deploarable. SHe also has more than one Death Threat that the Autoriries deemed serious enough to investigate.
That said, I don't know if he did it or not.

I love Arena's.

Go nuts.

Lastly, wow you guys are crying like little babies over a friggan blog post.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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if you do this with your boyfriend at prom night - I might buy it. But come on, you have this guy who's reputation alone is worth millions, you go to his room, start making out and then you change your mind ??? What did she think, they will kiss a little and then wait a couple more months until they move to next base ?
dude - this is a little ridiculous. if someone says no, they said no. end of story. doesn't matter how far things have progressed. if she puts the brakes on, she puts the brakes on.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
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ya i wasnt even gonna touch that one Coltrane. Talk like that in my hood and you get Stoned in town square by Tofu and organic bread.

Parkdale ain't down with Misogyny.

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no one's down with mysogeny, that's what Kobe looks like such a shmuck.
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ya i wasnt even gonna touch that one Coltrane. Talk like that in my hood and you get Stoned in town square by Tofu and organic bread.

Parkdale ain't down with paved roads and people with teeth.

Fixed it for ya.
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Is that an excuse for raping someone moremilk?, if teasing you is an excuse for raping, then I bet any of us has had the right to rape someone.

PS: I prefer not to judge anyone, kobe or that girl.

I dont want to think kobe did rape her because many people have being acuse of rape falselly by crazy girls that want to ruin their lives, and as the guy come out innocent, I prefer to think he is innocent.

On the other side, for Kobe and the NBA with all their power would be easy to make her look exactly like I said before (a crazy lying whore that all she wants is money and some fame),

Anyway, I just prefer not to think about it, and since the guy is a genius basketball player and in the interviews he seems like a nice guy (garbajosa said he was one the nicest player he has meet in the NBA), Ill just think he is a decent guy.
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Agreed it's hard to know from the trial and the potential crazy-ness of the girl but Kobe did admit to having the affair, but he claims it was consensual. Since he was married at the time that makes him an adulterer. It's a philosophical question as to which of adultery and rape is worse, as it is whether being an adulterer means you are still a decent guy... so it's up to each individual to hold their own opinion on the subject but it is my opinion that society in general is too open to adultery and too soft in the punishment thereof.
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yeah but if you hate adulteres, you would have to hate at least 75% of men.
I wont think someones a bad person for doing that. I dont think is right but I wont judge him for that because most people do that and specially basketball players.
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