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Old 01-12-2011, 08:11 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Kobe just has to work so much harder for his mid range shots than MJ did. That being said, Kobe still has the best mid range game in basketball today.

Kobe has his moments when he's completely trusting his teammates and not playing so emotionally. Usually he's looking angry, and frustrated.

MJ is the greatest SG of all time. Kobe is a top ten SG.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:55 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Kobe just has to work so much harder for his mid range shots than MJ did. That being said, Kobe still has the best mid range game in basketball today.

Kobe has his moments when he's completely trusting his teammates and not playing so emotionally. Usually he's looking angry, and frustrated.

MJ is the greatest SG of all time. Kobe is a top ten SG.
whats your top 10 2-guards, just curious
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:28 PM   #63 (permalink)
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If you look only at the players body of work, that being his championships, and career statistics. Kobe is 2nd right behind MJ.
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But personally, I think a guy like Reggie Miller in his prime would of lit Kobe up. I think Ray Allen has proven on numerous occasions that he is Kobe's equal.

I would group them altogether.

Mike is 1.

The next 9 guys are all top ten, with no particular order given.
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Old 01-13-2011, 09:56 PM   #64 (permalink)
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The Lakers aren't always in contention because of Kobe.... they're always in contention because they have an owner (Dr. Buss) who's not afraid to spend money to win.
lol c'mon man. You don't think Kobe's drive has anything to do with how good the Lakers are? Not saying that's the only thing, but I sure as hell don't see them winning two championships with a laid back player with a "Vince Carter-like attitude" leading the team.

I hate how people bitch about players wanting to become the best, wanting to become known for something. WHY is that a problem? The day BC goes out and acquires someone like that will be the day this team finally becomes something. Instead, let's build our team around a 7 foot Center who probably doesn't even like basketball lol.
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:35 AM   #65 (permalink)
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The Lakers aren't always in contention because of Kobe.... they're always in contention because they have an owner (Dr. Buss) who's not afraid to spend money to win.
Yeah... that's bullshit. There were a few years after Shaq left where the Lakers had Kobe and one of the worst rosters in the NBA, and they still made the playoffs every year but one I believe. Kobe has proven to be a selfish bitch at times in his career, but at this point his body of work speaks for itself and he's distanced himself so far from the Vince Carters and Tracy McGradys of the world that it's not even right to compare them anymore. Kobe is lucky to have played with Shaq and have a good team with a few great players the last few years, but Kobe was the key #2 on the Shaq-led teams (Kobe was easily a top-5 player even back then) and inarguably is the main reason the Lakers won their last two championships.
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:38 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Just a interesting stat:

Minutes played in regular season, playoffs, and college amongst active players:

Shaquille O'neal: 52,300
Jason Kidd: 52,173
Tim Duncan: 47,892
Kobe Bryant: 46,437
Kevin Garnett: 46,399
Ray Allen: 46,103
Paul Pierce: 41,274
Steve Nash: 40,373
Juwon Howard: 40,003
Dirk Nowitzki: 39,059
Chauncey Billups: 37,866
Vince Carter: 37,371
Derrick Fisher: 37,111
Grant Hill: 36,500
Ben Wallace: 36,092
Wow... very interesting. It's absolutely remarkable that Steve "bad back" Nash is on that list and actually seems to have fallen off the least from his prime; well aside from probably Dirk.

You can see how some of those players are just totaly done (Juwon, Wallace) and some are just hanging on by a thread (Shaq, Kidd). KG has done a great job of bouncing back from the last two years - he looked "done" a couple years ago but has been more consistent this season.
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