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Old 01-10-2011, 04:20 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Well, it's probably my dislike for Kobe that makes me say this... but just because he has the fame & money, it doesn't mean he doesn't crave more. I'm pretty sure he wants as much as he can get, and it's never enough.

Love for the game may be competing with love of money and recognition.

But like I said. I'm not a Kobe fan, so.... ignore me.
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:01 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Well when I was 14 I got sick and the disease I had then + the medication I used to take + Playing for school and rep basketball team each day (game and practice) destroyed my knee and got rid of all my cartilage. Now when I run a bit I could actually feel the friction on my bone and after I have to ice my knee for a whole day. And yes eventually people lose their cartilage at a very old age.
What did you have, if I may ask?
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:45 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Just a interesting stat:

Minutes played in regular season, playoffs, and college amongst active players:

Shaquille O'neal: 52,300
Jason Kidd: 52,173
Tim Duncan: 47,892
Kobe Bryant: 46,437
Kevin Garnett: 46,399
Ray Allen: 46,103
Paul Pierce: 41,274
Steve Nash: 40,373
Juwon Howard: 40,003
Dirk Nowitzki: 39,059
Chauncey Billups: 37,866
Vince Carter: 37,371
Derrick Fisher: 37,111
Grant Hill: 36,500
Ben Wallace: 36,092

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Old 01-11-2011, 09:17 PM   #44 (permalink)
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What did you have, if I may ask?
It was called vasculitis effecting the whole body, and I had to take cortisone. Just research the side effects of both.
+ I had to take some random medication which also had side effects.

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Well, it's probably my dislike for Kobe that makes me say this... but just because he has the fame & money, it doesn't mean he doesn't crave more. I'm pretty sure he wants as much as he can get, and it's never enough.

Love for the game may be competing with love of money and recognition.

But like I said. I'm not a Kobe fan, so.... ignore me.
You really think Kobe does what he does for the money and fame? Really?
So you're saying his attitude is no different than Lebron James's?

There is a stark contrast in both these players attitudes... and one of them is clearly about the money, fame, fortune that comes from being a superstar in this league.
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You really think Kobe does what he does for the money and fame? Really?
So you're saying his attitude is no different than Lebron James's?

There is a stark contrast in both these players attitudes... and one of them is clearly about the money, fame, fortune that comes from being a superstar in this league.
I don't recall saying anything about Lebron. In fact, I didn't mention him once.

Yes, I do think Kobe does it for the money and fame. (Not to say he doesn't love basketball... it'd be a dumb career move if he didn't)

But not once did I compare him to Lebron. You just did. You're trying to bait me, but I'm not biting.
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I don't recall saying anything about Lebron. In fact, I didn't mention him once.

Yes, I do think Kobe does it for the money and fame. (Not to say he doesn't love basketball... it'd be a dumb career move if he didn't)

But not once did I compare him to Lebron. You just did. You're trying to bait me, but I'm not biting.
Here's the thing

Kobe has argueably the best work ethic in the NBA... the guy Practices... first player on the court each and every day...

He's a winner, he loves winning ...

The fame and money come from winning... I do agree that he cares about those things too and maybe alot more when he was younger, but matureing as a person i think winning comes to him first...
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Here's the thing

Kobe has argueably the best work ethic in the NBA... the guy Practices... first player on the court each and every day...

He's a winner, he loves winning ...

The fame and money come from winning... I do agree that he cares about those things too and maybe alot more when he was younger, but matureing as a person i think winning comes to him first...
He practices, except when he doesn't, for an entire season.
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:18 PM   #49 (permalink)
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All that ball-hogging is finally taking it's toll.... my heart bleeds for him.
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I don't recall saying anything about Lebron. In fact, I didn't mention him once.

Yes, I do think Kobe does it for the money and fame. (Not to say he doesn't love basketball... it'd be a dumb career move if he didn't)

But not once did I compare him to Lebron. You just did. You're trying to bait me, but I'm not biting.
I brought up Lebron because that is who he is compared to on a regular basis.

I genuinely believe Kobe would play the game of basketball as a career no matter what he got paid. Of course he is chasing fame, and by fame I mean striving to become known as an all time great. Striving to become legendary. What's wrong with that? God forbid a Raptor have an inkling of that drive, then maybe this team would actually get somewhere.
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I brought up Lebron because that is who he is compared to on a regular basis.

I genuinely believe Kobe would play the game of basketball as a career no matter what he got paid. Of course he is chasing fame, and by fame I mean striving to become known as an all time great. Striving to become legendary. What's wrong with that? God forbid a Raptor have an inkling of that drive, then maybe this team would actually get somewhere.
The Lakers aren't always in contention because of Kobe.... they're always in contention because they have an owner (Dr. Buss) who's not afraid to spend money to win.
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The Lakers aren't always in contention because of Kobe.... they're always in contention because they have an owner (Dr. Buss) who's not afraid to spend money to win.
sorry, not buying it. the knicks have an owner willing to spend to win, and they were awful for years until they got star power. same with boston before kg and ray ray. it's about the guys you actually have, not about the money you have to get guys.
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It just seems like all great perimeter players who have logged considerable mileage (playoffs, olympics, etc.) are bound to this fate.

My question is how did MJ stay healthy for so long? Dude had more mileage on those legs than anyone. It's crazy when you think about it.
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It just seems like all great perimeter players who have logged considerable mileage (playoffs, olympics, etc.) are bound to this fate.

My question is how did MJ stay healthy for so long? Dude had more mileage on those legs than anyone. It's crazy when you think about it.
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My question is how did MJ stay healthy for so long? Dude had more mileage on those legs than anyone. It's crazy when you think about it.
didn't start playing at 18 y/o, and when he got tired he left and played baseball for 2 years.
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MJ is an exception. He is a basketball god.
Probally the only reason I watch basketball today.
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Mj also experienced a bad injury early in his career and put in a lot of work to make sure he had good wheels from then on.

And he changed his game nicely when he started reaching the age where wear and tear shows. Then he really changed his game to another sport entirely.
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And he changed his game nicely when he started reaching the age where wear and tear shows. Then he really changed his game to another sport entirely.
Kobe's game in the #24 era is much different than his game in the #8 era. The past few years he's become almost strictly a post player and a jump shooter, tailoring his game to his decreasing athleticism. I think this is the first year where the wear and tear is really starting to show, and there isn't really a lot he can change about his game to accommodate that.
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Kobe's game in the #24 era is much different than his game in the #8 era. The past few years he's become almost strictly a post player and a jump shooter, tailoring his game to his decreasing athleticism. I think this is the first year where the wear and tear is really starting to show, and there isn't really a lot he can change about his game to accommodate that.
I was thinking about this the other night when he dunked on Nocioni. You just don't see Kobe doing that as often the past few years.
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