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TORaptor4Ever 05-16-2012 01:07 AM

Kobe: "I don't take charges".
 
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"We got a couple guys that take charges, but for the most part, the one guy that took a charge is now playing in Oklahoma," Bryant said after practice Tuesday, referring to Derek Fisher. "I don't take charges. Metta [World Peace] don't take charges. Steve [Blake] will take a charge every now and then, but most everybody else just stands up and plays."


The 33-year-old veteran who is playing in his 16th season said part of the reason for his longevity is his aversion to sacrificing his body to draw offensive fouls.

"I learned from my predecessors," Bryant said. "[Scottie] Pippen had a [messed] up back taking charges. [Larry] Bird had a [messed] up back taking charges. I said, 'I'm not taking charges.' I figured that ... out at an early age."

Bryant said that Pippen and Bird didn't share their charge-taking horror stories with him to influence his decision, he merely noticed through observation. He also picked up on other legends who benefited from not taking charges.

"I've seen Michael [Jordan] not take one ... charge and he's healthy his whole career and the same thing with Magic [Johnson]," Bryant said. "I might not be the smartest guy in the room, but I can figure that ... out."

Complete article:
2012 NBA playoffs -- Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant cites injury risk in drawing charges - ESPN Los Angeles
Hmmmmm..... I guess you could call it smart on his part but this is just one more thing that piles on to the whole "Kobe cares more about his legacy than winning" thing. Looking to others to do the dirty work while he collects the glory.

Kirby 05-16-2012 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 644028)
Hmmmmm..... I guess you could call it smart on his part but this is just one more thing that piles on to the whole "Kobe cares more about his legacy than winning" thing. Looking to others to do the dirty work while he collects the glory.

or he wants a longer career...

doesn't mean anything close to him caring about his legacy more than winning lol.

TORaptor4Ever 05-16-2012 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby (Post 644030)
or he wants a longer career...

doesn't mean anything close to him caring about his legacy more than winning lol.

You don't think so eh? Going into games with the mentality "I'm just not gonna take charges." =/= a guy who's willing to do whatever it takes for his team to win.

'trane 05-16-2012 01:14 AM

...other than the one in eagle county colorado... :cookie:

Kirby 05-16-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 644031)
You don't think so eh? Going into games with the mentality "I'm just not gonna take charges." =/= a guy who's willing to do whatever it takes for his team to win.

I'm guessing this is also for the other legends who didn't want to take a charge as well haha.

I mean, I agree you should do anything you can to get a W for your team, but by no means is this anything you should attack Kobe's will to win.

Bill Haverchuck 05-16-2012 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 644031)
Going into games with the mentality "I'm just not gonna take charges." =/= a guy who's willing to do whatever it takes for his team to win.

That doesn't mean that his motivation is protecting the legacy. The motivation can be "I love playing basketball and making cash, and want to do it as long as possible".

You can want longevity without being focussed on your legacy.

Kirby 05-16-2012 01:22 AM

cus in the end we're all human :cookie::cookie:

bjjs 05-16-2012 01:38 AM

I'm not sure I believe Kobe - he's to super-competitive to be concerned about longevity.

It's just not...natural for players to put themselves in a vulnerable position. It's something you simply don't do if their are no referees/officials on the court - so in that sense taking a charge is similar to flopping.

DonMughal 05-16-2012 01:46 AM

How many championships does he have? More than anyone else in the league?


Questioning his will to win? LOL

Shifty.py 05-16-2012 07:52 AM

Not quite sure how back gets injured in taking charges? You are supposed to be standing face on...

Pipen and Bird spent considerable time playing against other forwards. Force in the paint that is what gets you.

dfunkie1 05-16-2012 07:57 AM

if kobe was concerned about his legacy, he wouldn't have sat out the final game of the season.

as for taking charges, for every charge that gets called, you're either picking up a foul yourself or laying on the ground while the play continues. the odds have never been in the favour of the defender.

DonMughal 05-16-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Shifty.py (Post 644065)
Not quite sure how back gets injured in taking charges? You are supposed to be standing face on...

Pipen and Bird spent considerable time playing against other forwards. Force in the paint that is what gets you.

You land on your back after taking one.

You also need strength from your back to embrace such a hit standing up.

SomeDPlease 05-16-2012 08:41 AM

Oh dear. You're really stretching it on this one.

LOG 05-16-2012 10:15 AM

Im not a big fan of Kobe, but this is not a big deal at all. It doesn't really make any difference

Shadowfax 05-16-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 644033)
...other than the one in eagle county colorado... :cookie:

:haha::bowdown:

Kobe is such a douche

Chiggmo 05-16-2012 01:42 PM

Lol trane that was a good Zinger haha.


But in all serious, I hate Kobe but this is just dumb, charges virtually never go your way, and without Kobe (if he got hurt from it) that team is dead.

ClutchCity 05-16-2012 01:51 PM

dumb thread

jeffb 05-16-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 644028)
Hmmmmm..... I guess you could call it smart on his part but this is just one more thing that piles on to the whole "Kobe cares more about his legacy than winning" thing. Looking to others to do the dirty work while he collects the glory.

Yeah, kobe doesn't care about winning. :cwm34:

Fixxxer 05-16-2012 03:15 PM

is taking a charge seen as a bitch move in the league or something?

jumplvlan23 05-16-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 644066)
if kobe was concerned about his legacy, he wouldn't have sat out the final game of the season.

as for taking charges, for every charge that gets called, you're either picking up a foul yourself or laying on the ground while the play continues. the odds have never been in the favour of the defender.

end of discussion.

people will try and twist anything he says to make him look bad. besides, more than half the time players flop to get the charge call. kobe is a whiner when it comes to the refs but he sure as hell ain't a flopper.


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