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Old 08-01-2008, 01:48 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I'm saying Kobe would've got sat down on his fluffy little ass by Wilt, Russell, Unseld, Gilmore, Bellamy et al. No star treatment, no tic-tac fouls...
He doesn't get enough calls in today's NBA in the first place! If you ever watched 82 Laker games in a season then you would realize that the star-treatment he receives is no where NEAR the level of Lebron, Wade and other players.

Part of that is his own doing however, because if there is one thing I can't stand about Kobe is the constant bitchin' he delivers to the refs on many many occasions. That's the one thing I don't like about him, and its just human instinct not to reward a person who keeps lambasting you.
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:52 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Hate in another sense... what makes you think he is playing to act as a hero for USA basketball? What makes you think that?

People should just stop being so busy hating on Kobe Bryant, and just start to enjoy a living legend play basketball at one of the highest levels any human has taken this sport.
Let me ask you a few questions.

Do you think the Lakers would really let him play if he was hurt so badly?

Secondly, do you not think Nike et al. have a vested interest in whether he plays in the Olympics?

As for the highest levels any human has ever taken the sport? Maybe if you just started watching the game in the last ten years.
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:53 PM   #63 (permalink)
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He doesn't get enough calls in today's NBA in the first place! If you ever watched 82 Laker games in a season then you would realize that the star-treatment he receives is no where NEAR the level of Lebron, Wade and other players.

Part of that is his own doing however, because if there is one thing I can't stand about Kobe is the constant bitchin' he delivers to the refs on many many occasions. That's the one thing I don't like about him, and its just human instinct not to reward a person who keeps lambasting you.
Maybe not, but you just admitted he gets star treatment.

Do you watch 82 Laker games a year?
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:10 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Let me ask you a few questions.

Do you think the Lakers would really let him play if he was hurt so badly?

Secondly, do you not think Nike et al. have a vested interest in whether he plays in the Olympics?

As for the highest levels any human has ever taken the sport? Maybe if you just started watching the game in the last ten years.
Lakers really can't control Bryant's decisions...

Nike has an interest in whether he plays in the Olympics.. of course.. but is that the primary reason as to why Kobe is playing in them? I think not... Its Nike thats interested in Kobe, not the other way around...

I said one of the highest.. not THE highest... who can do what Kobe has done on the offensive side of the ball? Very very very few, if not NO ONE else..
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Maybe not, but you just admitted he gets star treatment.

Do you watch 82 Laker games a year?
I have watched 75+ Laker games this year and the year before.
Sleep is something that I am regaining during my summer holidays lol .
And haven't missed any playoff games of course.

Anyways ACIE, you have your opinions, and I have mine. I can't do anything about your feelings toward him... but I highly suggest just watching and enjoying what he brings to the game, because before you know it... he will retire and you would have missed a very special player in action right in front of your eyes.

Tell me if your opinion would have changed if he donned a Raps jersey, would it have?
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I have watched 75+ Laker games this year and the year before.
Sleep is something that I am regaining during my summer holidays lol .
And haven't missed any playoff games of course.

Anyways ACIE, you have your opinions, and I have mine. I can't do anything about your feelings toward him... but I highly suggest just watching and enjoying what he brings to the game, because before you know it... he will retire and you would have missed a very special player in action right in front of your eyes.

Tell me if your opinion would have changed if he donned a Raps jersey, would it have?
You're getting me all excited.
He played with an injury because he isn't like Wince.
The season he had something great going like Pau Gasol and Bynum being a double double machine, why would you quit?

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Old 08-01-2008, 11:26 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I said one of the highest.. not THE highest... who can do what Kobe has done on the offensive side of the ball? Very very very few, if not NO ONE else..
You do know that Kobe is not the most prolific scorer in the history of the NBA.

He's not even in the top ten.

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I have watched 75+ Laker games this year and the year before.
Sleep is something that I am regaining during my summer holidays lol .
And haven't missed any playoff games of course.

Anyways ACIE, you have your opinions, and I have mine. I can't do anything about your feelings toward him... but I highly suggest just watching and enjoying what he brings to the game, because before you know it... he will retire and you would have missed a very special player in action right in front of your eyes.

Tell me if your opinion would have changed if he donned a Raps jersey, would it have?
I've watched lots of Laker games too. Not 75+ because frankly I don't have the time, nor I don't care to.

I grew up watching basketball in the 80's and early 90's, so I was spoiled by Magic, Kareem, Bird, Dominique, MJ, Pippen, Hakeem, Drexler et al.

I've also been watching Kobe play since 1996, so I haven't missed a thing.

IMO Kobe will go down as one of the all-time greats, but when it's all said and done and Lebron figures out that it's okay to play with defensive intensity all the time there won't even be a debate who the greatest of this generation is.
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:34 PM   #68 (permalink)
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You do know that Kobe is not the most prolific scorer in the history of the NBA.

He's not even in the top ten.
You really don't think so?
Pourqoui?
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:36 PM   #69 (permalink)
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I grew up watching basketball in the 80's and early 90's, so I was spoiled by Magic, Kareem, Bird, Dominique, MJ, Pippen, Hakeem, Drexler et al.
If Kobe could play in an era that banned zone defense, he would be just as special as them, perhaps even more
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You really don't think so?
Pourqoui?
I meant statistically - PPG.
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I'll forever remember Kobe for his 24 - not his jersey number - the 24 point lead he gave up after giving the kids a hug at halftime. I wonder if he slapped them when the game was over. Just sayin'...
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If Kobe could play in an era that banned zone defense, he would be just as special as them, perhaps even more
Let's just let him play in an era where defenders must show full frontal nudity.

You do realize that the rules don't allow for him to be defended to anywhere near the extent that players were defended physically in the past, right?
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:47 PM   #73 (permalink)
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If Kobe could play in an era that banned zone defense, he would be just as special as them, perhaps even more
He did play in one until 2001.

I think it evens out anyway. Don't forget Kobe also plays in the hand check era. Try and catch a game from the late 80's/early 90's on Raps TV or ESPN Classic and you'll be shocked at the amount of contact that defensive players get away with.

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LX and I just said the same thing. I'm too slow.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:23 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Well I'm sure Kobe would much rather play against tougher physical defense and hand-checking rather than zone.
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I'll forever remember Kobe for his 24 - not his jersey number - the 24 point lead he gave up after giving the kids a hug at halftime. I wonder if he slapped them when the game was over. Just sayin'...
I'm pretty sure almost every player in this league has given up some sort of lead. And why are you singling out Kobe?
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