Knicks want Phil Jackson, might offer 4yrs/50Mil

jeffb · 04-26-2012, 04:17 PM

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If the New York Knicks don't advance beyond the first round of the playoffs, I'm hearing they'll make a major — repeat, major — push to lure legendary coach Phil Jackson out of retirement.
With money being no object, the scuttlebutt is the Knicks brass may offer the "Zen Master" a four-year, $50 million deal.

Phil Jackson might be offered a reported $50 million to coach the New York Knicks | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports

pzabby · 04-26-2012, 04:42 PM

IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

Blaze · 04-26-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

You could say that but other coaches also had Jordan, and multiple all stars. He might not be the greatest coach of all time but he is great.

Grizz · 04-26-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

Those teams didn't win before or after him either (though LA still could).

LOG · 04-26-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

There is absolutely no reason to suggest that he is not that good. Sure Both bulls and lakers had stars, but the way they moved the ball under Jackson was a beauty to watch. His triangle offense was deadly at the time

ClutchCity · 04-26-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

Wow. How dare you?

**Claudius** · 04-26-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

Seriously?

Even if you argue that he's been with great players his entire career you're still neglecting to look at what those teams have become when he's gone. They become disjointed with the powerful personalities simply taking over. Jackson is a great coach, not because of his x's and o's (even though I'm a big fan of the Triangle), it's because all of those guys buy in at once. They trust him. That's what leadership is. When all the guys simply follow and that's why he's a great coach.

Ammo · 04-26-2012, 10:23 PM

They'll have to spend more money on players. Deeeeeep into luxury tax. Phil only goes to stacked teams. We'll never know if he is actually a great coach.

ClutchCity · 04-26-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

I'm sorry but -3 is not harsh enough for this post. Keep thumbing down people!

pzabby · 04-26-2012, 11:42 PM

it's an opinion people, Calm your balls.

dfunkie1 · 04-27-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

it's an opinion people, Calm your balls.

what type of opinion was it?

we can play hangman

it was a _ _ _ _ _ _ opinion

LOG · 04-27-2012, 10:01 AM

^S... Fuck it i call the word stupid!

**Claudius** · 04-27-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

it's an opinion people, Calm your balls.

So when your opinion is challenged this your reaction?

XiaominWu · 04-27-2012, 10:46 AM

Not such an outrageous opinion....

Unless NYK put an all-star team together and need someone to manage egos.... it could very well be a waste of money.

DVS · 04-27-2012, 10:49 AM

I can't believe Phil Jackson being a great coach is even in debate. You may not like him but this guy has done things only Red Auerbach has surpassed. I guess you can say Red was crap if he didn't have the greatest centre of all time at his disposal.

You may not lke him but he did it and you need great players to do it. Great players make Great Coaches and if Phil isn't a great coach I guess I'm watching a different game. Have a little respect for history.

Saying all that I hope he doesn't take the Knicks job I think he is too old to coach again. He should be a GM or advisor or something.

creative1mm · 04-27-2012, 11:02 AM

Just because your team has a bunch of talent, it doesn't guarantee Championships.. Phil Jackson knows how to coach talent..

the teams he has won with were not winning or taking that next step without him

He is a great Coach

pzabby · 04-27-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by creative1mm

Just because your team has a bunch of talent, it doesn't guarantee Championships.. Phil Jackson knows how to coach talent..

the teams he has won with were not winning or taking that next step without him

He is a great Coach

Were the lakers not winning once they got pau? I think that jordan team and multiple lakers teams would have been successful with.another coach at the helm.

pzabby · 04-27-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius

So when your opinion is challenged this your reaction?

Its a pause until i have enough time on the weekend to explain myself in more detail

creative1mm · 04-27-2012, 01:11 PM

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Were the lakers not winning once they got pau? I think that jordan team and multiple lakers teams would have been successful with.another coach at the helm.

oh so your saying Lakers and Pau won a championship without Phil Jackson?
those teams were winning during the season, but not winning championships.. Phil got those teams over the hump

not saying other coaches couldn't do that, but with Jackson there was an immediate impact

pzabby · 04-27-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by creative1mm

oh so your saying Lakers and Pau won a championship without Phil Jackson?
those teams were winning during the season, but not winning championships.. Phil got those teams over the hump

not saying other coaches couldn't do that, but with Jackson there was an immediate impact

Correct me if im wrong but the lakers were never with pau and without jackson so how is ur point valid?

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04-26-2012, 04:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
pzabby is COYS! gotta get meself into lawschool after 3 years of undergrad Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: toronto Posts: 5,458 Representing:	IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

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Ammo is T. Ross IS The Phantom Menace. Lackey Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Mighty North Tundra Posts: 2,803 Representing:	They'll have to spend more money on players. Deeeeeep into luxury tax. Phil only goes to stacked teams. We'll never know if he is actually a great coach.

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pzabby is COYS! gotta get meself into lawschool after 3 years of undergrad Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: toronto Posts: 5,458 Representing:	it's an opinion people, Calm your balls.

04-27-2012, 10:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
LOG is trying to learn tolerance, and let others believe what they want to believe. Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,189 Representing:	^S... Fuck it i call the word stupid!

04-27-2012, 10:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
XiaominWu is ------------------------ Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,196 Representing:	Not such an outrageous opinion.... Unless NYK put an all-star team together and need someone to manage egos.... it could very well be a waste of money.

04-27-2012, 10:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
DVS is in la la land I'm stuck being a Rap Fan Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Its jeffb's world we just post in it Posts: 5,971 Representing:	I can't believe Phil Jackson being a great coach is even in debate. You may not like him but this guy has done things only Red Auerbach has surpassed. I guess you can say Red was crap if he didn't have the greatest centre of all time at his disposal. You may not lke him but he did it and you need great players to do it. Great players make Great Coaches and if Phil isn't a great coach I guess I'm watching a different game. Have a little respect for history. Saying all that I hope he doesn't take the Knicks job I think he is too old to coach again. He should be a GM or advisor or something.

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creative1mm is a Raps fan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 755 Representing:	Just because your team has a bunch of talent, it doesn't guarantee Championships.. Phil Jackson knows how to coach talent.. the teams he has won with were not winning or taking that next step without him He is a great Coach