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jeffb 04-26-2012 04:17 PM

Knicks want Phil Jackson, might offer 4yrs/50Mil
 
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If the New York Knicks don't advance beyond the first round of the playoffs, I'm hearing they'll make a major repeat, major push to lure legendary coach Phil Jackson out of retirement.
With money being no object, the scuttlebutt is the Knicks brass may offer the "Zen Master" a four-year, $50 million deal.
Phil Jackson might be offered a reported $50 million to coach the New York Knicks | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports

pzabby 04-26-2012 04:42 PM

IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

Blaze 04-26-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 638889)
IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

You could say that but other coaches also had Jordan, and multiple all stars. He might not be the greatest coach of all time but he is great.

Grizz 04-26-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 638889)
IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

Those teams didn't win before or after him either (though LA still could).

LOG 04-26-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 638889)
IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

There is absolutely no reason to suggest that he is not that good. Sure Both bulls and lakers had stars, but the way they moved the ball under Jackson was a beauty to watch. His triangle offense was deadly at the time

ClutchCity 04-26-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 638889)
IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

Wow. How dare you? :dead:

Claudius 04-26-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 638889)
IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

Seriously?

Even if you argue that he's been with great players his entire career you're still neglecting to look at what those teams have become when he's gone. They become disjointed with the powerful personalities simply taking over. Jackson is a great coach, not because of his x's and o's (even though I'm a big fan of the Triangle), it's because all of those guys buy in at once. They trust him. That's what leadership is. When all the guys simply follow and that's why he's a great coach.

Ammo 04-26-2012 10:23 PM

They'll have to spend more money on players. Deeeeeep into luxury tax. Phil only goes to stacked teams. We'll never know if he is actually a great coach.

ClutchCity 04-26-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 638889)
IMO he's not that great of a coach. He's good, sure, but look at the teams he coached. bulls with jordan, LA with 4 hall of famers, one in his prime and one in development, and then again a hall of famer and multiple all stars with L.A. Realy, this is a waste of money on NY's part, but then again, it is NY..

I'm sorry but -3 is not harsh enough for this post. Keep thumbing down people!

pzabby 04-26-2012 11:42 PM

it's an opinion people, Calm your balls.

dfunkie1 04-27-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 639127)
it's an opinion people, Calm your balls.

what type of opinion was it?

we can play hangman

it was a _ _ _ _ _ _ opinion :cookie:

LOG 04-27-2012 10:01 AM

^S... Fuck it i call the word stupid! :confused2:

Claudius 04-27-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 639127)
it's an opinion people, Calm your balls.

So when your opinion is challenged this your reaction?

XiaominWu 04-27-2012 10:46 AM

Not such an outrageous opinion....

Unless NYK put an all-star team together and need someone to manage egos.... it could very well be a waste of money.

DVS 04-27-2012 10:49 AM

I can't believe Phil Jackson being a great coach is even in debate. You may not like him but this guy has done things only Red Auerbach has surpassed. I guess you can say Red was crap if he didn't have the greatest centre of all time at his disposal.

You may not lke him but he did it and you need great players to do it. Great players make Great Coaches and if Phil isn't a great coach I guess I'm watching a different game. Have a little respect for history.

Saying all that I hope he doesn't take the Knicks job I think he is too old to coach again. He should be a GM or advisor or something.

creative1mm 04-27-2012 11:02 AM

Just because your team has a bunch of talent, it doesn't guarantee Championships.. Phil Jackson knows how to coach talent..

the teams he has won with were not winning or taking that next step without him

He is a great Coach

pzabby 04-27-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by creative1mm (Post 639224)
Just because your team has a bunch of talent, it doesn't guarantee Championships.. Phil Jackson knows how to coach talent..

the teams he has won with were not winning or taking that next step without him

He is a great Coach

Were the lakers not winning once they got pau? I think that jordan team and multiple lakers teams would have been successful with.another coach at the helm.

pzabby 04-27-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 639206)
So when your opinion is challenged this your reaction?

Its a pause until i have enough time on the weekend to explain myself in more detail

creative1mm 04-27-2012 01:11 PM

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Were the lakers not winning once they got pau? I think that jordan team and multiple lakers teams would have been successful with.another coach at the helm.
oh so your saying Lakers and Pau won a championship without Phil Jackson?
those teams were winning during the season, but not winning championships.. Phil got those teams over the hump

not saying other coaches couldn't do that, but with Jackson there was an immediate impact

pzabby 04-27-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by creative1mm (Post 639264)
oh so your saying Lakers and Pau won a championship without Phil Jackson?
those teams were winning during the season, but not winning championships.. Phil got those teams over the hump

not saying other coaches couldn't do that, but with Jackson there was an immediate impact

Correct me if im wrong but the lakers were never with pau and without jackson so how is ur point valid?


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