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Toby 01-01-2012 09:07 PM

Kings say DeMarcus Cousins demanded trade
 
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CBSsports.com

January 1, 2012 6:51 pm

Posted by Royce Young

DeMarcus Cousins has always had a tag on him: immature. But that's often giving Cousins the benefit of the doubt. Because some might feel the right word is "head-case." One of those people might be Kings coach Paul Westphal.

The Kings released a surprising statement from Westphal regarding Cousins saying point blank that the young big man has demanded a trade. And as a result, Cousins has been told to stay home and won't be playing against the Hornets Sunday night.

“Whenever a new season begins, in any sport, there is great hope that everything will progress in only a steady, upward direction. As we all know, it seldom happens like that in this life! As coaches, we can only ask that our players do everything they can to improve themselves as individuals and teammates.

If they do this with all their hearts, we live with the results. Everything that happens on a team does not become known to the public. This is how it should be. However, when a player continually, aggressively, lets it be known that he is unwilling/unable to embrace traveling in the same direction as his team, it cannot be ignored indefinitely. DeMarcus Cousins has demanded to be traded.

In the best interest of our team as we go forward, he has been directed by me, with the support of management, to stay home from the New Orleans game tonight.”
Here's the odd thing: Cousins' agent John Greig tells SI.com it isn't true.

"DeMarcus never demanded a trade. I'm surprised the Kings, if they believe the player wanted a trade, wouldn't have made a phone call to his representative. Maybe Westphal is just feeling the Heat early this season."

I'm trying to infer from Westphal's comments and Greig's subsequent denial, but maybe Westphal is saying Cousins has demanded a trade with his actions. Or that Westphal has demanded that Cousins demand a trade. A "him or me" approach.

This comes after Cousins was asked recently about the Kings offense and he quipped, "What offense?" which is obviously a jab at Westphal.

Westphal has battled with Cousins since the Kings drafted him in 2010. Last season, Cousins was suspended by the team for an altercation with Donte Greene, he's been ejected and he's mocked opponents for choking only to get benched for it. The guy hasn't had a smooth run so far in the NBA.

Cousins has a tattoo on his leg that says "misunderstood." Red flag! He constantly feels like he's being picked on, singled out. And it seems that it's either going to be him or Westphal that goes in Sacramento. Because the two can't co-exist. What the Kings are going through is what so many team anticipated before the draft in 2010. Most felt that Cousins probably was the most talented player out there, except he might be a problem child. Which it appears he is.
Kings says DeMarcus Cousins demanded trade - CBSSports.com

dfunkie1 01-01-2012 09:10 PM

demarcus coleman

VanCity 01-01-2012 09:13 PM

i wouldnt touch this guy with a 10 foot pole. only team that i think is capable of handling him would be the celtics.and boy would he look good there.

dfunkie1 01-01-2012 09:14 PM

how would the celtics handle him? he'd probably become a bigger idiot there

Bill Haverchuck 01-01-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 593898)
how would the celtics handle him? he'd probably become a bigger idiot there

I could be wrong, but I think he was implying that the Celtics players would police him better. When you have a couple of vets, with proven track records, telling you to "calm down and STFU", it's harder for you to create problems for the coach. And when the coach is one of the most respected in the league, as is Doc Rivers, it makes it even more difficult for minor things to blow up. On a couple of occasions, in the past, Rondo has become angry and ignored the huddle during timeouts, which could have blown into something big, but the Celts always manage to keep shit under control, at least long term (beyond a single game).

dfunkie1 01-01-2012 09:24 PM

oh, i know what was implying, but the celtics are a bunch of idiots. look at the things ray allen is saying now. they've turned him.

besides, strong teams wouldn't take him. look how quickly the celtics got rid of nate robinson, and as i've already said, they're already filled with idiots. one too many and they'll explode.

VanCity 01-01-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 593898)
how would the celtics handle him? he'd probably become a bigger idiot there

do explain? he need to be around veterans that will put him in his place.

MrClutch 01-01-2012 09:32 PM

i laughed when I saw this on nba.com

VanCity 01-01-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 593947)
oh, i know what was implying, but the celtics are a bunch of idiots. look at the things ray allen is saying now. they've turned him.

besides, strong teams wouldn't take him. look how quickly the celtics got rid of nate robinson, and as i've already said, they're already filled with idiots. one too many and they'll explode.

i agree. because, good teams wont have much to offer. completely disagree about the celtics being idiots. nate robinson wasnt traded because he was a head case but more so to make the trade work. he was playing really well when he was with the celtics.

The Kings have no one that will Sand up to him. The celtics have 4 guys.

ValanciunasFanboy 01-01-2012 09:40 PM

i think the Celtics should go for it if he's cheap enough. nothing to lose tbh. Celts might be able to channel his act towards opposition.

I can't imagine what they'd ask for him.
Wolves got a pick and two young role players for Isiah Rider in a very similar situation.
But Cousins is a center so the price would likely be much higher.
Avery Bradley, JaJuan Johnson and all the picks they got? Probably not enough.

dfunkie1 01-01-2012 09:43 PM

nate was benched multiple times while he was with the celtics, i think they even suspended him.

as for their leaders, pierce is a notorious idiot, garnett acts like a brat, allen is disappointing. who's the fourth? rondo? they're a super competitive team filled with vets, but i don't see them as the leaders that are going to correct cousins.

Dark Knight 01-01-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 594012)
nate was benched multiple times while he was with the celtics, i think they even suspended him.

as for their leaders, pierce is a notorious idiot, garnett acts like a brat, allen is disappointing. who's the fourth? rondo? they're a super competitive team filled with vets, but i don't see them as the leaders that are going to correct cousins.

In that case, to the Spurs with Cousins. :cookie:

dfunkie1 01-01-2012 09:57 PM

they wouldn't take on a character like that

and they have the assets.

cousins has a crap load of talent, but i really doubt there's going to be a team that will give up half the value of a player of cousins caliber. the kings gambled on him and they lost. i don't foresee other teams paying the price.

ValanciunasFanboy 01-01-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 594012)
nate was benched multiple times while he was with the celtics, i think they even suspended him.

Nate was suspended with Knicks, I don't think there were any behavior issues with Celtics.

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 594012)
as for their leaders, pierce is a notorious idiot, garnett acts like a brat

towards their teammates? if not, what has that got to do with anything?

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 594012)
allen is disappointing.

you'd have to explain. his current play or his leadership? he's a 36 year old with awesome work ethic and ultimate pro lifestyle. If Nash was a 2, he'd be Ray Allen.

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 594012)
i don't see them as the leaders that are going to correct cousins.

check the headcases on the Celtics the last 3 years. Just look through their rosters. Guys who had long suspensions or off court issues before Celts. There've been like 10 or close. Not just bigger names like Rasheed, but all the role players.
All of them were like angels on Celtics. Not all of them played well all the time. But they acted fine.
Sometimes it's even funny. Like, Tony Allen. He was a huge head case before KG arrived. Then he's an angel -- he was often injured but he stopped acting out. Then he goes to Memphis and -- right away --- he beats up OJ Mayo on their plane.

Bill Haverchuck 01-01-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 594032)
cousins has a crap load of talent, but i really doubt there's going to be a team that will give up half the value of a player of cousins caliber. the kings gambled on him and they lost. i don't foresee other teams paying the price.

You could be right. Which means somebody will get him at a dirt cheap price (relatively speaking), or the Kings will try to patch things up, probably after Westphal is gone.


On a somewhat related note, Westphal has appeared to make some bonehead moves. I say "appear" because it looks that way but I don't know enough about the Kings to offer an opinion on whether more is going on. All I know is, when I have watched the Kings this year, Westphal has made some really weird decisions regarding the rotations. For example, when playing the Blazers, the Kings were sticking in the game. It was close until a few minutes into the 3rd quarter. Then, for some reason, Westphal played two rookies, Jimmer and IsaihThomas in the backcourt together for a significant stretch, after taking out Tyreke and Marcus Thornton at the same time. It made no sense. And it looked awful. There truly was no offense being run. Having said that, Cousins should still know to shut the fuck up and let things play out, or try to discuss things constructively, not in the media (captain obvious). If the coach really is that awful, he will eventually be fired.

Ammo 01-01-2012 10:13 PM

This is who he is. That was the red flag on him coming into the draft.

Ball Don't Lie 01-01-2012 10:35 PM

They should trade him for Blatche or Mcgee and re unite him with Wall. I think thatd work well.

neojiphre 01-01-2012 11:30 PM

Cousins to the raps?

Maybe he'll mature with a coach like Casey, look at Tyson Chandler, he wasn't as bad as Cousins but was a little immature.

TORaptor4Ever 01-02-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by neojiphre (Post 594072)
Cousins to the raps?

Maybe he'll mature with a coach like Casey, look at Tyson Chandler, he wasn't as bad as Cousins but was a little immature.

A guy like that needs strong-willed teammates to keep him in line and show him the way.

We don't have that here.

JDMtors 01-02-2012 12:20 AM

Wow already demanding a trade in his 2nd year. Well it's hard to deal with an immature player as stated before. As well its hard to pass up on a big man with his talents.
I think he woulda done well with the Lakers if Jackson was still there. Bynum and Fisher + 1st for Evans and Cousins


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