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Old 11-17-2010, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok.

This simply has to be addressed.

Under no circumstance, ever, will the Timberwolves EVER trade Rubio and Love unless they are getting ringers in return.

Not ever.

Never.

And if I read another thread on here that even pretends that ANY of the floatsum currently sloshing around in the Raptor Sea is going to be enough to yank them outta the Wolves franchise, I'm probably going to spontaneously combust.

Seriously.

Stop.

Samole call;

BC: Hi, its Brian up in Toronto.
Wolves: Hi Brian, how are you?
BC: I'm great, hey liesten, can I send you a few of our terrible yet over priced stiffs for your two franchise building ringers?
Wolves: Really? Are you serious?
BC: Sure. Maybe we can send one of our washed up guards and a draft pick... protected of course.
Wolves: Are you out of your fucking mind? I mean really, are you stupid?
BC: Nope, it's a good deal, it works on the ESPN Trade Machine guys, it's a win win.
Wolves: Brian...
BC: .... or we could send you Bargnani, he's a definite scorer and can offset you losing Love!
Wolves: Brian...
BC: You can have Calderon or Jack too.... maybe Derozan!
Wolves: BRIAN, LISTEN, STOP, I'm hanging up now, you're drunk.
BC: Aww come on guy, relax, I'm trying to make a deal here.....
Wolves: Good bye Brian, get some help buddy, you're losing it.

Ya something like that.

Honestly people. You don't ship shitty payers from a horrid and last place team to a better team, and for better and up and coming all stars. You just don't.


I'm sorry, but suggesting so is very, very, incredibly stupid.

Its just reality man.

fuck.... ya, Kevin love, Mr. 30/30 for fucking Bargnani and some stiff.

Awesome.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yea I agree, although Rubio is dispensable. They already have a decent PG (when healthy). Telfair/Ridnour as backups too.

Give the right guy and Rubio is gone. Everyone knows he doesn't want to play there himself so it shouldn't be a tough trade for the right pieces. In terms of Love, I don't think they would even accept Bargnani for him.

Nice dialogue. Creative.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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a bit over the top but people are insane.

Love AND rubio..... jesus.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Rubio has yet to play a NBA game...
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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nope, but the stiffs you guys think you can offer for him have, and they have proven to be the worst players in the league.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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nope, but the stiffs you guys think you can offer for him have, and they have proven to be the worst players in the league.
It's Kahn...

Give him Calderon Banks and Jack and he'll take em all...

He loves his point guards

Joking aside...

I agree with you on the Kevin Love part.. I don't see them trading away young talent just like that... even for Bargs..
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I wouldn't give up much for either of them to be honest. Love is lethargic slob diva and Rubio has yet to step on an NBA court.
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If anything Jonny Flynn is the most expendable PG in Minny.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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nope, but the stiffs you guys think you can offer for him have, and they have proven to be the worst players in the league.
I don't know man.

The management they got is pretty darn stupid.

Drafting point guards consecutively and signing Milicic to that horrid contract.

Don't forget, Babcock's the assistant gm down there.

Now, im not saying we can pull off a weems for rubio deal,

but i do see potential in a trade involving Bargnani for rubio.

I agree you with you on that KL is def out of the picture, not that anyone should be VERY interested, he isn't franchise material anyways.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If anything Jonny Flynn is the most expendable PG in Minny.
Sessions, if they still have him
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he's in Cleveland.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't know man.


Drafting point guards consecutively and signing Milicic to that horrid contract.
Believe it or not Milicic is only 25 yrs old. He is actually a decent center when he plays... at least defensively. Similarly to Amir, he can put nice numbers when he gets his minutes. Plus his contract is is 4yrs & ~20 mill. Not too over the top.

Minnesota is regrouping and being aggressive. Something the Raptors should consider. I'll take their GM over Colangelo.
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Believe it or not Milicic is only 25 yrs old. He is actually a decent center when he plays... at least defensively. Similarly to Amir, he can put nice numbers when he gets his minutes. Plus his contract is is 4yrs & ~20 mill. Not too over the top.

Minnesota is regrouping and being aggressive. Something the Raptors should consider. I'll take their GM over Colangelo.
I'll agree on the Milicic deal and virtues of his abilities... but Kahn definitely has his flaws too. He did do well with Beasley too....
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Believe it or not Milicic is only 25 yrs old. He is actually a decent center when he plays... at least defensively. Similarly to Amir, he can put nice numbers when he gets his minutes. Plus his contract is is 4yrs & ~20 mill. Not too over the top.

Minnesota is regrouping and being aggressive. Something the Raptors should consider. I'll take their GM over Colangelo.
Ya just cause milicic didn't live up to the hype, everybody thinks he's one of the worst players in the league.
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Old 11-19-2010, 06:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Stealing Beasley for two second-round picks was a freaking heist. Maybe he couldn't handle South Beach. Maybe he couldn't adjust to playing off the ball with Dwyane Wade. Maybe his personal demons were worse than the girl's from "Drag Me to Hell." But watching him this month has been a revelation -- even if he's a defensive liability, there aren't 12 NBA players right now who can drop 30 points easier than him.

Couldn't someone have trumped two second-round picks? Why would Toronto GM Bryan Colangelo turn down Beasley in the Bosh/Heat sign-and-trade when Miami would have thrown him in for free? Where was Oklahoma City's Sam Presti, who could have easily trumped Minnesota's offer and added Beasley (one of Kevin Durant's best friends) as a much-needed bench scorer? And where the hell were the Clippers???? I know he played terribly last season, and I know about the off-court concerns, but if you watched him in college I mean how could the No. 2 pick of the 2008 draft be worthless two years later? That was such a steal that I'm suspending all "Kaaaaaaaaahn!" jokes indefinitely. Great, great trade. And shame on the rest of the league for falling asleep.

Reason No. 14,728 I love the NBA: Colangelo had a choice between paying Beasley $11 million for two years (with a qualifying offer of $8.1 million in 2012-13) or signing Amir Johnson for $34 million for five years and chose Johnson!? Did he suffer a head injury right before the 2006 draft and not tell us? I'm dumping Kahn for Colangelo as this season's GM Whipping Boy. He didn't just ruin the Raptors these past four years; he shoved them down the stairs, beat them to death with a baseball bat and buried them in a sanitation site.
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i don't believe that for a second. how could he not be available in a $15 mil Bosh deal in which there was no financial difference for miami, but completely available for 2 2nd round picks in a separate trade? that makes no sense for miami, minnesota or toronto.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
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problem is, nobody, and I mean NOBODY saw Beasley's break out coming.

So, honestly, why get into it. Good for minny, they took a gamble and it paid off.


Ask yourself this, was Colangelo in a position where taking a gamble and losing, again, was an option?
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i don't believe that for a second. how could he not be available in a $15 mil Bosh deal in which there was no financial difference for miami, but completely available for 2 2nd round picks in a separate trade? that makes no sense for miami, minnesota or toronto.
Doesn't matter. Miami was trying to trade him for over a year and couldn't do it and pretty much gave him away. And nobody here wanted what was called a headcase. Hindsight is great isn't it.
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problem is, nobody, and I mean NOBODY saw Beasley's break out coming.

So, honestly, why get into it. Good for minny, they took a gamble and it paid off.


Ask yourself this, was Colangelo in a position where taking a gamble and losing, again, was an option?
Exactly, nobody here wanted him this summer. And if he made that move he would have been lambasted again. That and who knows how he'd be playing here on a different roster, different coach.
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