Josh Smith demands a trade

jeffb · 03-08-2012, 04:38 PM

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Even as Josh Smith is having a strong season for the Hawks he has let the team know he wants to be traded as the March 15 deadline approaches, according to people with knowledge of Smith’s thinking.

And the reasons for Smith’s dissatisfaction with the team now have to make the Hawks wonder if they will be able to sign him to a contract extension next season.

By the end of last season Smith wanted out of Atlanta because he believed he was singled out for unfair criticism by coaches and media. Those concerns have died down for the most part this season but now Smith believes he needs a fresh start with a franchise where he can better reach his potential on and off the court, according to one of the people with knowledge of Smith’s thinking.

Atlanta Hawks: Josh Smith still wants to be traded | Atlanta Hawks

Dark Knight · 03-08-2012, 04:45 PM

You know what we should do. We should void all the players contracts, and have an ultimate fantasy draft. It's win-win for both sides. Players get out of their current situations and basement-dwellers and small market franchises get a chance at some real talent.

Do your thing, Stern.

carp · 03-08-2012, 04:46 PM

three team trade? Send him to Philly, bring Iggy here, and send a collection of duds to ATL. lol

This could be a blessing for ATL, though not the scenario I'm suggesting.

Ligeia · 03-08-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by carp

three team trade? Send him to Philly, bring Iggy here, and send a collection of duds to ATL. lol

This could be a blessing for ATL, though not the scenario I'm suggesting.

If trading him means that they take a step back, I think they should seriously consider blowing it up. I like a lot about Joe Johnson's game but that contract is a killer. Amnesty Johnson (not sure the contract is trade-able), trade Smith for a quality center, trade Marvin Williams for a pick or give him a chance to flourish, and rebuild around Teague (maybe), Horford at the 4, and whatever else you can scrape together in free agency and draft.

DonMughal · 03-08-2012, 05:02 PM

It's obvious they weren't going anywhere with that core anyways. They never have. Need to blow it up.

Toby · 03-08-2012, 07:48 PM

MJ needs a franchise playa, if Smith doesn't mind losing

JDMtors · 03-08-2012, 08:31 PM

I think Smith is still upset how he's been snaked from the All Star Game. I totally agree how the Hawks sohuld totally start rebuilding. Johnson is starting to age slowly now, and injury is getting to him. Though he's a solid player I thought the max money was too much.

However I wouldnt mind this trade though:
Raptors get: Horford And Patterson
Hawks get: Ed Davis, Barbosa, Budinger thabeet and Dalembert
Rockets get: Josh Smith, Gary Forbes and Raptors 2013 1st, 2012 2nd

Not sure if its a solid trade, but Ill say it works out for all 3 teams in some way

**Ball Don't Lie** · 03-08-2012, 08:57 PM

One trade that makes sense for both sides is Smith for B Lopez. DWilll Smith and Howard together would be crazy.

jeffb · 03-08-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thriller92

One trade that makes sense for both sides is Smith for B Lopez. DWilll Smith and Howard together would be crazy.

They would need more then that, but Lopez/Horford could work well also.

DonMughal · 03-08-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thriller92

One trade that makes sense for both sides is Smith for B Lopez. DWilll Smith and Howard together would be crazy.

How would they get Howard if they sent Lopez to ATL?

Verbal agreement free agency?

**Ball Don't Lie** · 03-08-2012, 10:15 PM

Who needs more than that? Thats a pretty fair getting back someone who could be a top 3 C very shortly if he gets his act together on D and rebounding, and someone who already is a scoring machine downlow.

Smith is a really good player, but Lopez has the potential to be a lot better impact wise and obviously numbers too, but its on Brook to stop giving no effort on defence and rebounding.

**Ball Don't Lie** · 03-08-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal

How would they get Howard if they sent Lopez to ATL?

Verbal agreement free agency?

Theyd have enough cap space no?

Metallikid · 03-09-2012, 01:25 AM

If there's any multi-team trade that could net us J Smoove for our pick + something small (I.E. James Johnson) I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Calderon/Bayless
DeRozan/Barbosa
Smith/Kleiza
Bargnani/Johnson
Valanciunas/Gray

Depending on how well JV plays, I think that team could get to the second round.

rapsmannn · 03-09-2012, 05:21 AM

a guy who can't shoot 3s but shoots them anyways shows me that he is very selfish,

atlanta would be better off in the long run trading him for a big or a pg anyways

jeffb · 03-09-2012, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rapsmannn

a guy who can't shoot 3s but shoots them anyways shows me that he is very selfish,

atlanta would be better off in the long run trading him for a big or a pg anyways

Smith (2012)- 47 3pt attempts (30 3pt%)

Derozan (2012)- 68 3pt attempts (30 3pt%)

DonMughal · 03-09-2012, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Smith (2012)- 47 3pt attempts (30 3pt%)

Derozan (2012)- 68 3pt attempts (30 3pt%)

Smith= PF, who should ONLY focus on inside game and mid-range shot at best

DeRozan= SG, who NEEDS to learn how to shoot to become an elite guard

Chris · 03-09-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

You know what we should do. We should void all the players contracts, and have an ultimate fantasy draft. It's win-win for both sides. Players get out of their current situations and basement-dwellers and small market franchises get a chance at some real talent.

Do your thing, Stern.

Haha wow, I was actually literally fantasizing about that this morning.

jeffb · 06-27-2012, 09:24 PM

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The Hawks are aggressively shopping Josh Smith to the Lakers for Pau Gasol, beginning their pursuit shortly after the Western Conference semifinals.

Smith has been unhappy with Atlanta for more than a year.

Smith has one season remaining on his contract for $13.2 million.

Hawks Shopping Josh Smith To Lakers For Gasol - RealGM Wiretap

pzabby · 06-28-2012, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal

Smith= PF, who should ONLY focus on inside game and mid-range shot at best

DeRozan= SG, who NEEDS to learn how to shoot to become an elite guard

dirk nowitsky, larry bird, andrea bargnani, and countless others would like to sincerely punch you in the face

Dario · 06-28-2012, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Hawks Shopping Josh Smith To Lakers For Gasol - RealGM Wiretap

I saw somewhere on bleacher report, should we be interested in Gasol? Caldy Gasol Val euro team? :P

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03-08-2012, 04:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dark Knight is waiting for the sun to come out so he can let his guns out. Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Electric Avenue Posts: 15,049 Representing:	You know what we should do. We should void all the players contracts, and have an ultimate fantasy draft. It's win-win for both sides. Players get out of their current situations and basement-dwellers and small market franchises get a chance at some real talent. Do your thing, Stern.

03-08-2012, 04:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
carp is the rebirth of thick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,643 Representing:	three team trade? Send him to Philly, bring Iggy here, and send a collection of duds to ATL. lol This could be a blessing for ATL, though not the scenario I'm suggesting.

03-08-2012, 05:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
DonMughal is the boss Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Mississauga Posts: 2,969 Representing:	It's obvious they weren't going anywhere with that core anyways. They never have. Need to blow it up.

03-08-2012, 07:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Toby is a nacho hound Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South of Portland, home of the Blazers Posts: 3,381 Representing:	MJ needs a franchise playa, if Smith doesn't mind losing

03-08-2012, 08:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
JDMtors is The Man Who Does Everything Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,137 Representing:	I think Smith is still upset how he's been snaked from the All Star Game. I totally agree how the Hawks sohuld totally start rebuilding. Johnson is starting to age slowly now, and injury is getting to him. Though he's a solid player I thought the max money was too much. However I wouldnt mind this trade though: Raptors get: Horford And Patterson Hawks get: Ed Davis, Barbosa, Budinger thabeet and Dalembert Rockets get: Josh Smith, Gary Forbes and Raptors 2013 1st, 2012 2nd Not sure if its a solid trade, but Ill say it works out for all 3 teams in some way

03-08-2012, 08:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ball Don't Lie is praying Drummond doesnt haunt us forever. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,852 Representing:	One trade that makes sense for both sides is Smith for B Lopez. DWilll Smith and Howard together would be crazy.

03-08-2012, 10:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ball Don't Lie is praying Drummond doesnt haunt us forever. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,852 Representing:	Who needs more than that? Thats a pretty fair getting back someone who could be a top 3 C very shortly if he gets his act together on D and rebounding, and someone who already is a scoring machine downlow. Smith is a really good player, but Lopez has the potential to be a lot better impact wise and obviously numbers too, but its on Brook to stop giving no effort on defence and rebounding.

03-09-2012, 01:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
Metallikid is we may as well be the Queens Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,305 Representing:	If there's any multi-team trade that could net us J Smoove for our pick + something small (I.E. James Johnson) I'd do it in a heartbeat. Calderon/Bayless DeRozan/Barbosa Smith/Kleiza Bargnani/Johnson Valanciunas/Gray Depending on how well JV plays, I think that team could get to the second round.

03-09-2012, 05:21 AM	#14 (permalink)
rapsmannn is happy with our core players Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,307 Representing:	a guy who can't shoot 3s but shoots them anyways shows me that he is very selfish, atlanta would be better off in the long run trading him for a big or a pg anyways