Jordan's HOF speech drawing negative reviews.
Old 09-12-2009, 10:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Source - Jordan's night to remember turns petty - NBA - Yahoo! Canada Sports

I think the competitiveness and disdain for his opponents that drove him to such lofty heights is proving very difficult for him to turn off.
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He can't let go. He wants to be back in his old self, putting up amazing numbers and doing amazing things on the basketball court. Hes just pissed off that hes old and worn out.
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He can't let go. He wants to be back in his old self, putting up amazing numbers and doing amazing things on the basketball court. Hes just pissed off that hes old and worn out.
Yeah, it's sad really. I watched it and when he was asked about Kobe and Lebron he said they'll never be another Michael Jordan. When i saw that, i don't know why, but i was shocked. He simply can't admit that there just might be other players on his level in his prime. He looked foolish.
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Old 09-13-2009, 12:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I just watched 20 minutes of the speech, and it doesn't seem near as bitter as what the article makes it.
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yeah, the article really blew things out of proportion.

I think MJ is just being honest about some of the main things that drove him.

He felt a lot of pain when people criticized him, and from that pain, came his passion. If he doesn't talk about that, then he's not showing people who he really is.

The moral indignation that we're getting from critics is a lot more petty and small than anything Jordan said.
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You guys should see David Robinson's speech. Now that's a remodel.
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Michael Jordan was a great player, definitely one of the best but I will never like him as that player and person. The man is a fuckin' douchebag and his ego speaks for itself. The other day at the HOF ceremony was the perfect example why I can't stand him. I'd take Magic anyday over Jordan. JMO
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Wow that Yahoo writer should be fired, talk about taking everything MJ said out of context. He is simply explaining to everybody where his competitiveness came from and in a way he is actually complementing all those guys for him becoming the player he became.
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Watching it now on Rapstv, probably a bit blown out of proportion, but it definitely must be frustrating for him now that he's on the outside looking in at other NBA players and all he has are his glory days
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Yeah, it's sad really. I watched it and when he was asked about Kobe and Lebron he said they'll never be another Michael Jordan. When i saw that, i don't know why, but i was shocked. He simply can't admit that there just might be other players on his level in his prime. He looked foolish.
I watched the interview live, I don't think that was how he meant it. It wasn't that he was denying that there would ever be another player on his level, it was more that there would never be another "Michael Jordan" on his level, per se. That was how I interpreted it, I didn't think twice about it when I heard it.
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It should be pretty clear by now that this guy didn't interpret the speech the right way. Jordan did not insinuate anything bad about the ppl he mentioned by giving those examples. Rather, it was those people that helped him shape his career. Playing and working with those people defined who he is. The sacred wood to his enduring flame of passion.

“The critic has to educate the public; the artist has to educate the critic.” -- Oscar Wilde
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I enjoyed the speech more than I thought I would. It was interesting enough and not cliched, and the fact that he couldn't let some things go allowed me to relive them to an extent myself. And it revealed the price that needs to be paid to win like that. If he wasn't a douche then he probably doesn't end up winning so much. It's the kind of thing that makes it easy to cheer for the underdog.
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I watched the interview live, I don't think that was how he meant it. It wasn't that he was denying that there would ever be another player on his level, it was more that there would never be another "Michael Jordan" on his level, per se.
I agree. I think he was just emphasizing how the phenomena of MJ was unique, and deserves to be treated as such, rather than eclipsed.

It wasn't just that MJ won, but it was how he one. I mean, watching Kobe jump up and down after winning the championship last year was one thing, and then you compare that to the way Jordan won. The way he expressed himself after winning was just a sight to behold......the guy would just lose total control of himself, leaping up and down punching the air, or hugging a trophy crying. I can't recall anyone who appeared to love winning like MJ did.

It's almost like he was mentally handicapped in some ways....



like, he just can't control himself or something. Which was evident in the HOF speech with the crying, the finger tapping, fumbling, and jabs at other people. To me, it just makes him MJ. Not someone to disdain or anything.

Just a human being doing the only thing he knows how to do.
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There are and always have been two halves to MJ's greatness: the basketball side and the swagger side. MJ had a particular swagger that set him apart from previous greats and will continue to set him apart from the best players in the game today.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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the other two parts of MJ's greatness

selfishness

and

officiating

people harp about iverson on here all the time. for those same reasons, MJ was a hundred times worse. aside from last season, where it was actually the pistons pouting, i've never seen distaste from iverson's teammates. jordon, i have.
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This writer is the biggest douche of them all. The fact that he misunderstood what MJ meant when he said said to his children, "I would hate to be you" alone shows how much of a tool that writer is.
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hate to be you as in, what?

you'll forever live in my shadow?

you'll never amount to my greatness?

you'll have financial security for the rest of your lives?

you have a giant douchebag fuckface as a father?
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hate to be you as in, what?

you'll forever live in my shadow?

you'll never amount to my greatness?

you'll have financial security for the rest of your lives?

you have a giant douchebag fuckface as a father?
How about "you won't get the chance to live a normal life?"...

Watch the damn speech before you go purely on what the writer said. There's two sides too the story, don't rely on one.
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