JO to the Suns for Amare/Barbosa?
Old 01-29-2010, 03:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Beginning Of The End?: Yesterday was filled with a lot of chatter about Phoenix's Amar'e Stoudemire with multiple league sources suggesting that a deal with Phoenix and Miami was getting very close and that Stoudemire would ultimately end up in South Beach as a part of a deal in which Miami would send the expiring contract of Jermaine O'Neal to Phoenix in exchange for Stoudemire and possibly Leandro Barbosa.

As of last night there was no deal imminent with anyone, according to well-placed and informed sources, however in the fourth quarter versus the Mavericks, Stoudemire was benched for the entire fourth quarter.

HoopsWorld Article Jan 29th

Fuck me, if this happens it'll be a fight for 5th with Miami for sure.

Wade
Barbosa
Beasley
Amare

is a pretty good core.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtop...d3ae6c16d20e42
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Old 01-29-2010, 03:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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On one hand, I wouldn't be suprised if the Suns do this because Sarver is one cheap dude.. or maybe they could be gearing up to a player in the 2010 FA bonanza.
The on the other hand, that's such a negligible return for 2 very good players. It would also probably end all Bosh-to-Miami rumours.
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Barbosa is over rated and has struggled for most of the year.

Beasley and Amare I just don't see working together and I'm curious how Amare would fare in a half court system.
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Amare & Barbosa for JOs expiring contract? Wow that's a fcking steal for MIA

defensively horrible but you never know what they can do.
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Barbosa is over rated and has struggled for most of the year.

Beasley and Amare I just don't see working together and I'm curious how Amare would fare in a half court system.
I could totally see them employing a run and gun system. I think it would work out well for them. Beasley has a pretty good outside game and Amare a very good post game.
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wow...thats a goooood trade for miami... JO is getting stale...would they really want JO over Stoudamire?
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Barbosa is over rated and has struggled for most of the year.

Beasley and Amare I just don't see working together and I'm curious how Amare would fare in a half court system.
Mehhhh! If you have Wade,Beasley,Amare, Barbosa you can certainly start running alot more.
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Old 01-29-2010, 03:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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this needs to include a shitload of picks for Miami
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Old 01-29-2010, 03:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Who's gonna run the pick and roll for Amare? Dude needs someone to throw him meatballs on the break.
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meh, i'm not too worried about it...
look how Nash's last pal ended up when he was on miami.... the same thing will happen with Amar'e.
Sure, Amare's a better player than Marion, but he still excels at the run n' gun, offensive powered system - and it doesnt hurt that he has the best passer in the last decade getting him the rock on a consistant basis.
throw him in miami's slow paced half-court set and he'll be useless.
are they planning to play him at center? good luck with that. miami's better off waiting for JO to expire and taking their chances in the offseason. They really have no faith in Beasley at PF, do they?
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Old 01-29-2010, 03:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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amare expires why would they do this. unless he's gonna stay
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amare expires why would they do this. unless he's gonna stay
Why wouldn't he stay?

BTW, if this were to go down i can see Nash wanting out.
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Amar'e forgot how to rebound the ball recently


If the Suns are gonna suck why don't we offer Caldy for Nash, even though the Suns-Raps relationship isnt good
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ppl need to keep in mind that this was posted on RealGM....

and while they are correct sometimes, they also talk alotta shit...

I dono who the Suns would be looking to sign if they got JO.... to be honest i think they could get more for Amare... esp. if Barbosa is included in any deal.
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it would make it next to impossible to land Bosh in south beach, so i'm all over this.
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it looks like Jose for Dwill...
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Old 01-29-2010, 04:46 PM   #17 (permalink)
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ppl need to keep in mind that this was posted on RealGM....

and while they are correct sometimes, they also talk alotta shit...

I dono who the Suns would be looking to sign if they got JO.... to be honest i think they could get more for Amare... esp. if Barbosa is included in any deal.
Yeah but it's quoted from hoopsworld so it's not just some schmo coming up with some BS pipe dream.
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ppl need to keep in mind that this was posted on RealGM....

and while they are correct sometimes, they also talk alotta shit...

I dono who the Suns would be looking to sign if they got JO.... to be honest i think they could get more for Amare... esp. if Barbosa is included in any deal.
This is purely a cost-cutting move by Sarver. They're a run-and-gun team now, no-knees O'Neal is the furthest thing from a good fit for that system. They'll get serious cap relief this coming season and that's what Sarver wants more than anything.

I feel sorry for Steve. What lies did they feed him during contract negotiations? Steve wouldn't still be in Phoenix if management didn't tell him they were doing everything they could to get a championship.

Not a lot of money in Phoenix right now, no corporate sponsorships and a team that's sure to get poorer and poorer in the next couple years. Wouldn't surprise me to see this team up for sale in the not-too-distant future.
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WOW. How long is Barbosa's deal and hom much is Amare getting paid this year?
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Steve Kerr sure fucked up.. I know it's already past that all is lost moment, but looking back.. he sure fucked up.

The Suns need to enter rebuilding mode but have no pieces.. unless you consider Amundson, Lopez and Dragic the next big three.
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