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What about Brandon Jennings! Is their really any competition against him for ROTY. This kid is just tearing up the league by suprise.
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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We shoulda drafted Jennings over Dero you know
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No one was saying that before hand. Demar needs to be viewed in a similar light to Andrea, a kid with tremendous skill and talent who is going to need three years to develop. Colangelo has said as much.
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No one was saying that before hand. Demar needs to be viewed in a similar light to Andrea, a kid with tremendous skill and talent who is going to need three years to develop. Colangelo has said as much.
I'm just saying. Jennings was a huge Draft day risk more so than Dero. Its how the draft goes.
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We shoulda drafted Jennings over Dero you know
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but the past is the past

I though Jennings would be a good player and the best PG in the draft but I didn't think it would be this quick. I thought the stats he's putting up now would be after a couple of years, his playing time helps
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jennings is def in the running for the roty. hes playing really well. i suppose the euoleague experience helped him...he wasnt really good there but you learn different things there. i wouldnt be surprised if more people in the future choose to do what he did
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jennings is def in the running for the roty. hes playing really well. i suppose the euoleague experience helped him...he wasnt really good there but you learn different things there. i wouldnt be surprised if more people in the future choose to do what he did
I doubt it shining in the NCAA ranks is till the best way to improve your stock. Not being benched in Italy
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I doubt it shining in the NCAA ranks is till the best way to improve your stock. Not being benched in Italy
it is but......
NCAA ball has limited hours allowed to practice
Jennings was working on his shot everyday with a coach, which is why it has improved from high school
you're playing against bigger players
the NBA is global now and they always have an eye on Europe
PT might be a problem but you're training with a team for a lot more hours
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I doubt it shining in the NCAA ranks is till the best way to improve your stock. Not being benched in Italy
ncaa may improve your stock, but not necessarily your skill. doesnt hurt to make a couple of mill either lol
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i think there are a shit load of good pointguards in this draft but i'm more then happy we have derozan . This team needs an allstar calibre wing if they ever hope to truely be a contender. Derozan is that prospect, coachable, head on straight, he'll be that guy ina few years barring injury

Jennings has been real good but i still say johnny flynn will be ROY
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Jennings has been real good but i still say johnny flynn will be ROY
Flynn is my boy as well. Keep it reall .. keep it orange
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devil's advocate here, have you seen milwaukee's roster?
theres no one who even wants to take a shot on that team... and seeing as how jenning's isnt a shy one, it isnt a surprise that he's putting up big numbers.
Milwaukee was the best place for any rookie to go... i believe if you put Flynn there, he puts up the same. that place is shitsville USA... it can make anyone look good.

on the ROY talk, have you guys seen the numbers Tyreke Evans has been putting up since Kevin Martin got injured?
he's absolutely exploding!
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devil's advocate here, have you seen milwaukee's roster?
theres no one who even wants to take a shot on that team... and seeing as how jenning's isnt a shy one, it isnt a surprise that he's putting up big numbers.
Milwaukee was the best place for any rookie to go... i believe if you put Flynn there, he puts up the same. that place is shitsville USA... it can make anyone look good.

on the ROY talk, have you guys seen the numbers Tyreke Evans has been putting up since Kevin Martin got injured?
he's absolutely exploding!
You saying when Redd comes back from injury Jennings days of producing at this clip are over?

You think Gino Delfino isn't doing his jacking act?

I'd say Warrick and Bogut are putting up their fair share as well.


Well shy or not I wish Dero could look for his shot a little more than he is but thats another story
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all of the guys you mentioned have zero ways of creating their own shot and need to be fed.
Jennings is the only one who can create something from nothing on that roster... and thats exactly what he's been doing this year.
the rest of the team plays around him, waits and watches to see what he's going to do. its the best possible place/scenario for a rookie PG to play in, and he's excelling. good for him, i must say i'm a fan.
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devil's advocate here, have you seen milwaukee's roster?
theres no one who even wants to take a shot on that team... and seeing as how jenning's isnt a shy one, it isnt a surprise that he's putting up big numbers.
Milwaukee was the best place for any rookie to go... i believe if you put Flynn there, he puts up the same. that place is shitsville USA... it can make anyone look good.

on the ROY talk, have you guys seen the numbers Tyreke Evans has been putting up since Kevin Martin got injured?
he's absolutely exploding!
Tyreke was the most NBA ready player and he's in a comfortable position in Sac Town
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all of the guys you mentioned have zero ways of creating their own shot and need to be fed.
Jennings is the only one who can create something from nothing on that roster... and thats exactly what he's been doing this year.
the rest of the team plays around him, waits and watches to see what he's going to do. its the best possible place/scenario for a rookie PG to play in, and he's excelling. good for him, i must say i'm a fan.
I dunno whats the difference between the Wolves and The Bucks. Both teams scream out below average to me. I just don't get how the Bucks are the "perfect" place for a rookie is all
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I dunno whats the difference between the Wolves and The Bucks. Both teams scream out below average to me. I just don't get how the Bucks are the "perfect" place for a rookie is all
for a PG?
Milwaukee has Ridnour logging under 15 minutes a night backing up Jennings... whereas, Flynn has Sessions chomping at the bit to get more minutes, and he's logging 23 minutes a night as backup.

Milwaukee practically gave Jennings the starters spot and gave him the keys to drive... they know they are crap and pretty much dont have no chance in hell to do anything but develop their young players (Jennings).

Minny has some good talent and is more structured. Flynn isnt depended on to make the offense go.

and for the record, i'd take Jefferson, Love, Gomes, Brewer anyday of the week over Redd, Bogut, Warrick, Delfino. its not even close what team has more talent, and which one depends more on the PG to score.
For a rook PG, Milwaukee is playing time and stat heaven.
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Jennings has been taking games over since day one. Milawaukee has been having some suprising but consistent wins. If Jennings can keep playing like this, and when Redd get's back they keep winning Jennings has no competition. Blake Griffin should just wait until next season to join the league and he'll have a shot at ROTY.
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1- Insider is doing a good job of playing devil's advocate. Look at the box scores. Jennings is getting loads of minutes and he controls the ball on a team with limited offensive options. Scott Skiles has given him free reign because Milwaukee isn't expected to make the playoffs, and the Bucks have nothing to lose. Bogut and Jennings ARE the offense most nights. On some other teams, Jennings would have a coach telling him to feed the other players. Or, even worse, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to start right away. Jennings success is an example of the right situation for the right palyer.

2-On the topic of "the Raps should have drafted him." I don't think you can even come close to saying that yet. Having rookie success is mostly about finding the right fit for a player's skill set/getting minutes. Derozan is on a short leash, but Jennings is not. On another team, maybe DD would be putting up 15 ppg and 6 rpg right now. Who knows? On the Raps, Jennings's skill as a scoring point probably would not have manifested itself yet because we have Jose. Maybe he would have proven himself in practice and eventually earned the starting role, but that would have taken time. And when he did become the starter, he'd still be getting less minutes and shots than in Milwaukee, because Jose would definitely see the court a lot as a backup. Furthermore, Jennings's skill set is not best suited for the Raps, a team on which he would be expected to create for others more than create for himself. Jennings would be the 4th option on the Raps. Right now, he's the 1st on the Bucks. The point is, there are a number of different variables involved. A rookie's success is not just about being the most talented. If any team should be kicking themselves, I think New York should. I think that's a scenario in which Jennings early success might be transferable. In Dantoni's system, Jennings could take lots of shots. It's not like Duhon is the PG of NY's future. Jennings could have won the starting role in NY and given the fans something to be excited about. Jennings was angry at NY for not taking him, and now NY management should be angry with themselves.

3-In regards to ROY, Insider raises a good point. Evans is now just starting to get comfortable after being switched to the shooting guard position. He torched Utah the other night and responded with solid stats the next game. Evans had a tough time the first few games becuase he was playing PG. With Martin's injury, Udrih is now in the starting backcourt with Evans, which takes pressure off of him. Evans may turn out to be a great 2 or 3, instead of a point guard.
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