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Old 04-29-2013, 05:01 PM   #41 (permalink)
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So, just go ahead and hug and kiss your boyfriend. Does he need a CNNSI article to do that?
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:04 PM   #42 (permalink)
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So, just go ahead and hug and kiss your boyfriend. Does he need a CNNSI article to do that?
yes, the more it's discussed the sooner it becomes more accepted and announcements won't have to be made. if it bothers you that much don't read it.
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:10 PM   #43 (permalink)
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interestingly, brittney griner got pretty much zero press for coming out recently. cheryl swoopes too, when she did the same. part of the pedestal, perhaps.
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Weak? Except that I've seen ordinary gays and lesbians do just that without any announcements.

And no, it didn't bother me one bit. What bothers me is, in my opinion, undue publicity.
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part of the pedestal, perhaps.
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The publicity surely helps to break down the barriers, not just for him, but for others. I can't fathom how that can be seen as undue.
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Weak? Except that I've seen ordinary gays and lesbians do just that without any announcements.

And no, it didn't bother me one bit. What bothers me is, in my opinion, undue publicity.
it's weak because context matters. he is a male pro athlete. that matters a lot, and for several reasons, all of which should be obvious by now.
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:23 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Weak? Except that I've seen ordinary gays and lesbians do just that without any announcements.

And no, it didn't bother me one bit. What bothers me is, in my opinion, undue publicity.
Do you really see no purpose for why Collins would want to make this announcement? Again...he didn't need to...he wanted to. I think some of the reasons why he wanted to are obvious. If you need me to spell it out I can. There are no reasons why he "needed" to.

Undue publicity...what world do you live in? Snookie's pregnancy was undue publicity. Bieber spitting on his neighbour is undue publicity.

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I have no idea who Snookie is. I had no idea that Bieber spitted on his neighbour. Do you know why? Because neither event made a front page of CNN.

If the only purpose of the public announcement was to make others like him less afraid of openly acknowledging their sexuality... Well... To me - that is weak.

The strong don't need media support or trailblazing examples. They are simply who they are, always, no matter the circumstances. And if being "openly gay", whatever that might mean or means to different people, was preventing professional athletes from having long and successful careers in NA leagues, I doubt very much that this announcement would help rectify the situation any more than Amaechi's did.

Other than that - sure, I get all the stated reasons, I simply don't agree with them. And I promise to stop bothering the majority here with my unwanted musings.
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I have no idea who Snookie is. I had no idea that Bieber spitted on his neighbour. Do you know why? Because neither event made a front page of CNN.

You don't think snookie being pregnant didn't make first page news on CNN?

And i don't know if you're being serious with half of this shit.
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so, mike, what about those who are not strong? do they need nothing, or do you just think they should never get media support or trailblazing examples? should we only support people who are already strong? seems kinda sorta backwards to me.
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I hope this doesn't end his playing career, that would be just a sad statement overall.
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I hope this doesn't end his playing career, that would be just a sad statement overall.
I'll say this much for him, him being a FA makes this more ballsy imo. I do think he'll get a contract, but still.
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I don't mind signing Jason Collins to a vet minimum. I mean come on, he's a 3rd string center and I remember him playing good defense on Dwight in the playoffs 2 years back. Not to mention our locker room is filled with high-character guys.
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I don't think the announcement is coincidental. I'm the only one who thinks he's done playing in the NBA?

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because of ignorant, insecure fucks like this......

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That video almost has double the amount of likes then dislikes. That just shows how hard it is for someone to come out like how Collins did.
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I have no idea who Snookie is. I had no idea that Bieber spitted on his neighbour. Do you know why? Because neither event made a front page of CNN.

If the only purpose of the public announcement was to make others like him less afraid of openly acknowledging their sexuality... Well... To me - that is weak.

The strong don't need media support or trailblazing examples. They are simply who they are, always, no matter the circumstances. And if being "openly gay", whatever that might mean or means to different people, was preventing professional athletes from having long and successful careers in NA leagues, I doubt very much that this announcement would help rectify the situation any more than Amaechi's did.

Other than that - sure, I get all the stated reasons, I simply don't agree with them. And I promise to stop bothering the majority here with my unwanted musings.
Are you fucking serious?

Come on man, honestly, come on now. You don't agree with what you're hearing? Or you don't quite comprehend it. I'm gonna go with the latter. To be honest, all I think, is that you are a clever homophobe, which is you're right, but we did not own graves when it comes to reputation, and veiled to intolerance is intolerance just the same.
I'm free you really aren't homophobic, fuck mike, how are you not seeing the significance of this situation bud, try harder, its a pretty big deal.
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"I'm a 34-year-old NBA center. I'm black. And I'm gay," Collins wrote.

Gay, sure ok..........but who knew he was black?
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because of ignorant, insecure fucks like this......

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i love George's response to this...priceless

go get him George

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i love George's response to this...priceless

go get him George

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