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Old 10-27-2012, 11:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Kudos to OKC management - "you don't like the offer? let me show you the door"

He was their third best player - $12MM/per was a good deal for him.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:02 AM   #22 (permalink)
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This is pathetic though, they drafted him and can't even keep him.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:03 AM   #23 (permalink)
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this is why Houston had 20 players on their team
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:06 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Crazy deal out of nowhere. James Harden looks like a good fit with the Rockets because he could help Lin out with the ballhandling.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:08 AM   #25 (permalink)
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This is pathetic though, they drafted him and can't even keep him.
It's tough with the small market teams. No easy way to handle it. If there is a heavy tax penalty, this could happen. You draft so well that you can't keep everybody. However, if you have a hard cap, the same thing would happen. If you draft too well under the hard cap system, nobody would be able to keep everybody! You don't even have the option to pay tax if you want to.

The only reason I'm becoming more sympathetic to the hard cap argument is because everybody gets fucked in that system, whereas in this system there are still a few teams that are willing to spend absolute bonkers money to meet their tax bill. It may be time to just ass fuck everybody.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:09 AM   #26 (permalink)
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they could have kept him if they wanted to but chose the lower cost route.

i'm kinda excited to see houston's ball movement once they get used to each other. lin, harden, and white can all read and pass well. jones was not that bad from what i saw of him the past couple years of college. asik is a great defender and, imo, already one of the premiere centers, but i'd be interested to see if they could try white at the 5 a la diaw in phoenix.

think bc will try and swing a jose for martin deal? it has some benefit for the thunder.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:13 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:16 AM   #28 (permalink)
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presti is smart, he learned from the ainge trade when he acquired perkins and how the players reacted when they traded him. better to trade him now then let it be a distraction in the season
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:17 AM   #29 (permalink)
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i think Lamb is better than people think. Oklahoma did well here, they couldn't keep them all.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:19 AM   #30 (permalink)
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they could have kept him if they wanted to but chose the lower cost route.
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Kept him and been in a position where they have to face tough tax penalties down the road. This system is tough for a small market team that drafts ridiculously well.
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turned down 4 years/$52 mil for 4 years/$60 mil
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:25 AM   #32 (permalink)
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i think Lamb is better than people think. Oklahoma did well here, they couldn't keep them all.
Given OKC's needs, it could turn out to be a very good deal for the Thunder. It's definitely not a trade you can immediately slam. We still don't know what they are going to do with Kevin Martin. They might flip him for something useful, or he could stay with the team and play well in the short term. Lamb and the picks could provide solid, cheap rotation talent for the next few years.

It's reported that one of the picks is the Toronto pick from the Lowry trade, so Thunder fans will definitely be cheering against us this year.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:26 AM   #33 (permalink)
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i think Lamb is better than people think. Oklahoma did well here, they couldn't keep them all.
They did better than well.... Martin is just about on par with Harden, they got Lamb AND 2 1st rounders as well? Plus better cap situation?

That's ROBBERY.
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OKC gets our pick now
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:35 AM   #35 (permalink)
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harden's pay wouldn't have kicked in until next year. besides the fact that they make a lot more money going deep into the playoffs and BRI, they'd have a lot of time and plenty of picks and suck to facilitate an unloading of other salary if needed.

on another thought, will houston have to waive players? they're sending out martin and lamb and getting back harden, cook, aldridge, and hayward
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:38 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Looks like Lakers and Spurs in the Western Conference Finals?
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:43 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Jaw dropper! Idk how i feel about this trade.. I mean okc has the star talent in durant and westbrook. Th just need key role players and i think they kind of got that, still think they couldve done better for harden.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:50 AM   #39 (permalink)
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For those interested, the pick from Dallas is top 20 protected through 2017 and then unprotected in 2018. So that one will likely just be a late 1st rounder; and Dallas could be mediocre next year which means that it might not be conveyed for a couple of years. The pick from Toronto, as most probably know by now, is either a lotto pick sometime between 2013-2017 or an unprotected pick in 2018.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:59 AM   #40 (permalink)
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When Harden switched over to point guard in that series and hit those clutch shots it changed the pace of that series. Durant was a big part as well but Harden really was the nail in the coffin.
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