Is Iverson Worth the Trouble?
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The overwhelming belief among NBA general managers is that Allen Iverson isn't worth all the trouble that could come along with him.

"It's a really dicey question," one general manager said, according to NBA.com.

However, unless he decides to retire, Iverson is likely to find a home before the start of the 2009-10 season.

"As a GM, it would be interesting to find out how many GMs with playoff-caliber teams would be willing to even give the veteran's minimum, where the league picks up a large percentage of the salary," the same executive said. "Even at the minimum, you're going to go through training camp and one or two months of the season trying to get the experiment to be successful. I would venture to say that 30 percent or less of playoff GMs would have him for the minimum."

Iverson isn't opposed to signing a one-year deal, but sources close to the guard claim that the circumstances would have to be right.

"There are different scenarios impacting AI at the same time," another GM told NBA.com. "One of them is economic, another is the recent performance of his last two teams -- Denver and Detroit -- and not necessarily his performance, and another is teams protecting space for next summer.

"All of those line up. Another probable factor is what he's asking for. I don't think it is one thing. It's a multitude of factors.
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RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: GMs Don't Think Iverson Is Worth The Trouble

Do you think Iverson is worth the trouble? Should he just retire if he cannot except the fact that he cannot always start? Is Iverson's point justified?

Personally I think it's time for him to retire. He had a great career and we should remember him for the good things he did.

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i'd hate to see him retire. he's a great player and he's great for the game. he would undoubtedly have to learn to swallow his pride and find a way to fit into what a team is doing rather than be a focal point. starting, coming off the bench, being a role player, providing a spark when needed - whatever the role, if ai can be that guy, and is interested in being that guy, he would be invaluable. it may be that he wants to retire and not have to reduce the kind of impact he is used to having, and that would be his prerogative, but i would hate to see it. the guys is just too fun to watch.
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Thanks, here is the link:
RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: GMs Don't Think Iverson Is Worth The Trouble
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I think he wants to go down as one of the greatest players even at the end of his careeer. This doesn't always work out, remember what happened to Michael Jordan when he came out of retirement? I think it might be time for Iverson to play off the bench or retire.
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I think Iverson would be a great 3rd option on the floor, excellent 6th man. If he would suck it up and be like Terry he would help any team in the NBA a lot. He would be instant offence off the bench. But stubbornness seems to be ideal in his case.

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I think Iverson could make a great impact playing sixth man for the Clippers as they need an experienced veteran. If he does suck it up and sign with the Clippers, the Clippers would actually be dangerous. Or, if he wants to go down a starter, he could be the Knicks star player next season for 5 mill and then retire.
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He'll go to Miami.
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I odubt it, that would create a ton of chemistry options to the Heat as Iverson will think he is the number one option. Sure they'll have a great record but they won't get far in the post-season. Just remember when Iverson played with Carmelo. I don't even think the Heat need Iverson. I think the heat have a decent backcourt and need to focus on their frontcourt depth as Jermaine O'Neal is injury prone.
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He'll go to Miami.
I agree, He would fit there the best, right now Miami will take anyone to help Wade score.

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Iverson would not fit well in Miami because he would not realize that Wade needs the ball more than he does. Iverson should just go sign in Europe or something.
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Considering what he's accomplished in the NBA its understandable why he's having such a hard time accepting coming off the bench. But after playing for 2 teams with poor results, especially seeing Denver blossom in his absense, he should be re-anylzing what he brings to a team. Since he still doesn't seem to be clueing in its gonna be another sad season for him no matter what team he plays on.
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Iverson would not fit well in Miami because he would not realize that Wade needs the ball more than he does. Iverson should just go sign in Europe or something.
Hmm, You saying Wade should have the ball 100% time of the game, because unless you think Jow is a good second go to guy you mistaken. Iverson would fit in best there, because both can score, and the team doesn't really have anyone to score outside Wade.

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Considering what he's accomplished in the NBA its understandable why he's having such a hard time accepting coming off the bench. But after playing for 2 teams with poor results, especially seeing Denver blossom in his absense, he should be re-anylzing what he brings to a team. Since he still doesn't seem to be clueing in its gonna be another sad season for him no matter what team he plays on.
it's hard to blame that on Iverson, because what Denver needed was a point guard, not a scorer. They had a scorer and realized it wasn't working so went out and traded Iverson for one of the best point guards in the game. Billups had an amazing season last year. It's quite debateble.

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I odubt it, that would create a ton of chemistry options to the Heat as Iverson will think he is the number one option. Sure they'll have a great record but they won't get far in the post-season. Just remember when Iverson played with Carmelo. I don't even think the Heat need Iverson. I think the heat have a decent backcourt and need to focus on their frontcourt depth as Jermaine O'Neal is injury prone.
For a little less than the MLE and a starting spot, he would be a good fit in Miami. I think Iverson realizes if he goes to the Heat, he wouldn't be the #1 option..he'd be a solid #2 or #3 option. Miami doesn't boast anyone better as a backcourt running mate to Wade.
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Is it that Iverson doesn't want to sign in Europe or nobody in Europe wants the guy?
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Iverson was offered like 5-6 million to play overseas. I think Olympiakos offered up the contract.
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is AI worth the trouble?
in one word: NO.

unfortunately, Iverson's ego and pride will be the death of his career.
how else do you explain a guaranteed-future Hall of famer, and one of the best NBA players to ever suit up unable to find a team willing to sign him?

no team wants to take the chance on him... no team wants a potential headache, no team wants a cancer, no team wants its valuable youngsters to have AI rub off on them.
in his case, the bad totally outweigh the good.
unfortunately for AI; the whole denver/detroit fiasco made him look 100 times worse.
ok, so maybe it wasnt his fault what happened in detroit, but what about what happened in denver? him leaving was the best thing to ever happen to that team.
George Karl went on record saying that AI was one of the worst influences for Carmelo and JR Smith.
AI comes to Denver.... a few weeks later both Carmelo and JR start wearing arm sleeves, a few weeks later the 3 are inseprable. they start partying to the wee hours in the morning - they start coming to practices tired and burnt-out - living this superstar lifestyle that is beginning to effect their games.... worst of all the attitudes start flaring up - pre madonna-superstar atitudes.
is that the type of veteran influence you want rubbing off on your young players?

I don't want to paint AI as 'the bad guy', but subconciously this is what he brings to a team... and what makes it worse is his ego. he cant be second fiddle... he cant be a 6th man. this is not in his nature, its not what he's all about.
think about it. heres a guy who came from nothing. all he knew how to do was be 'the man', the reason he's here today is because he's been the man his whole life. its like trying to unlearn something that you've realied upon and done your whole life. i honestly think he's incapable of not being option #1.
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I would only give him the minimum for a year and if he wouldn't take it then he can go somewhere else
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Don't wanna plug my own stuff too much, but I wrote about him in detail here: http://vittoriodezen.wordpress.com/2...allen-iverson/

Basically: no, he's not worth it, for most teams anyway. Too many long, missed jumpers. Not enough defense. He's a ball-stopper, he doesn't contribute much outside of scoring, and he can't score efficiently at this point. I hate saying this, 'cause I love the guy and I don't want to see him go out like this, but he's not of much use to most teams now.
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