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jeffb 02-07-2011 07:02 AM

If D12 leaves Orlando, he wants to be a Knick or a Laker?
 
Nobody stays with one team anymore? Nobody should point to Toronto as a team nobody stays on. Nuggets, Cleveland, Orlando all have had playoff success compared to Toronto and if D12 leaves, all their players will have left their respective teams. Add to that the possible exiting of CP3 in NO...

What do you think, we he stay or will he go?


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f he does leave, Howard has his eyes on two teams -- the Lakers and Knicks -- as the big-market destinations where he'll chase down his championships and marketing opportunities if things don't work out in the Sunshine State. The Nets, who are supposed to be in Brooklyn by then, also are in the mix, the person said.

So the Magic are on the clock -- the way the Cavs were with LeBron and the Raptors with Chris Bosh, and the way the bill has come due for the Nuggets and Carmelo Anthony. But if you ask Magic GM Otis Smith -- and I did -- there isn't some knee-jerk plan to deal with Howard's future. Smith has been planning for the next year and a half for the past seven years.

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What else could they have done? Like the Cavs with LeBron, there'd be no surviving the public outrage of trading Howard now -- a year before this becomes a real issue -- in an attempt to get close to equal value. Think about it, though: If Ferry had traded LeBron in February 2010 instead of imperiling the payroll with Antawn Jamison's contract and watching James leave anyway, what would've happened? The Cavs still wouldn't have won a championship, but they wouldn't be one of the worst teams in the history of basketball now, either.

Realistically, that couldn't have happened in Cleveland, and it won't happen in Orlando or New Orleans. There is no explaining that to season-ticket holders or sponsors, and if that's what it takes to head off disaster in the NBA, then maybe the league really does need a lockout to fix it.

Instead, Smith followed the Cavs' preemptive approach to superstar wanderlust.
Magic's troubling questions surround futures of Howard, Arenas - NBA - CBSSports.com Basketball

Raptorman 02-07-2011 11:38 AM

He should be fined all of next years salary as he is obviously going to mail it in any ways.

As should any player/agent that leaks this kind of horse shit to the press.

babyface 02-07-2011 01:18 PM

hmm could CP3, Melo and Dwight be the next big 3?

LX 02-07-2011 01:25 PM

The concept of the franchise player, and the way the CBA locks them in place at the cost of overall team development, is biting the league in the ass. Please go be a Laker at a point where Kobe is in decline. It's time to show the world that you are a Shaq-wannabe with no heart.

TORaptor4Ever 02-07-2011 01:44 PM

If he's smart he'll go to the Knicks... because the Lakers are already on the decline.

Ex2k 02-07-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by babyface (Post 505423)
hmm could CP3, Melo and Dwight be the next big 3?

Big Four

CP3
Melo
Dwight
Amare

ha123 02-07-2011 06:38 PM

Raptors cuz demar will turn into kobe. Then we will have our own kobe and shaq!:yeah:

VanCity 02-07-2011 07:30 PM

nba needs franchise tag, its not perfect but its better than he bullshit here...

pzabby 02-07-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VanCity (Post 505510)
nba needs franchise tag, its not perfect but its better than he bullshit here...

what?

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 02-07-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 505520)
what?

Look at the NFL.

You can franchise a FA and you can sign him to a one deal of a certain amount of $$(offer him a contract of 120% of what he made last year or average salary from top 5 position of that same players position). Only can do it to once a year to any player you like(only one).

So if a NFL team has a star player and he is going to leave they will just franchise him and sign him to another year.

EX:
The Eagles plan to use the franchise tag on Michael Vick to keep him them for sure since he came back and was very good again.

Someguy again 02-07-2011 08:41 PM

clippers would be nice

Blaze 02-07-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RaptorsandBuckeye FaN (Post 505530)
Look at the NFL.

You can franchise a FA and he has to at least sign a one year deal with you. A player in the NFL can be franchise for 3 straight years. Only can do it to once a year to any player you like(only one).

So if a NFL team has a star player and he is going to leave they will just franchise him and sign him to another year.

I like this i hope they do something like this in the new CBA. What the hell is wrong with players now a days, is there no such thing as loyality or competitiveness. When hear this I get so mad omg.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 02-07-2011 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 505520)
what?

Here is a solid article on it.

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The franchise tag exists because back in the day the owners wanted protection from their quarterbacks leaving via free agency. On the onset of free agency, the owners figured their franchise centerpieces, the quarterbacks, would always see out their option of becoming a free agent and move to a place where they could make more money, be in a better market and/or play on a better team. By creating the franchise tag, owners figured that they would be able to keep their quarterbacks. What resulted is quarterbacks, knowing they could never become free agents, signed long term deals with the team they were at so they could get money and long term security up front instead of trying to leave via free agency which basically was not going to be allowed by the owner. The NFL owners were trying to prevent what happened in the NBA, where players like LeBron James and Chris Bosh bolted from their teams to greener pastures. If the NBA were like the NFL, these players would never have been allowed to leave by their owners.

The Franchise Tag Bleacher Preachers

komot 02-07-2011 09:15 PM

he is most likely leaving orlando unless they are able to sign deron wiliams or cp3 but with their contracts they look to be the next cavs in 2 yrs.

i can't see howard on the lakers with bynum and gasol. he most likely has 2 markets being NYK and the nets? not sure where he can go besides lakers/knicks but he most likely isn't staying in orlando with the way the team is playing around him.

if he teams with carmelo and cp3 boy that would be fun to watch.

canadiantruth 02-07-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptorman (Post 505400)
He should be fined all of next years salary as he is obviously going to mail it in any ways.

As should any player/agent that leaks this kind of horse shit to the press.

This could obviously never work, but the Nba really does need to do something....the idea of player's holding teams hostage is bullshit, and is a disgrace to the game of basketball.


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