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Old 09-27-2012, 10:48 PM   #61 (permalink)
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It doesn't make sense to have both views. On one hand you think the league is doomed, on the other hand you admit that it's exciting and you yourself want to contribute $200 hard earned dollars to the league-shared coffers.
Thats complete nonsense. It really is. I have no idea how people can operate without dynamic thoughts about any one subject.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:52 PM   #62 (permalink)
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In that other thread, YOU went out of your way to say that bjjs "doesn't understand the economics" during your doom and gloom predictions. As far as I'm concerned, when you shit talk like that, you're asking for him to point out your inconsistency.

I'm glad you're touched. It brings joy to my heart.
Are you daft? I often wonder what you guys smoke on a regular basis to say things like this. Inconsistent? You think that because I am looking at a nearly impossible to beat lineup, and as an interested basketball fan I am very eager to see if it actually will do what it should do means that I think it's a great idea that 5 teams hold all the talent in the NBA, are you seriously telling me that is the limit of what you are able to understand Bill?

I don't believe that for a minute, I think you're just being a smartarse!

But ya no, one has little to do with the other. I don't think people should kick the shit out of each other in the street either, but they do, and I rarely look away.

Anyhow, I se what you guys at are getting at but no, I assure you, I don't think stacking teams is a good idea, but now that this has been stacked, I am totally interested to see what they do, almost exclusively because of Nash.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:35 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Whatever, GO BLAZERS!
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:00 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Are you daft?
This is the type of comment you really need to remember more when you complain like a little bitch about others being "mean". I really have no problem with you taking this approach, only that you're a complete pussy when people do it back.


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I often wonder what you guys smoke on a regular basis to say things like this. Inconsistent? You think that because I am looking at a nearly impossible to beat lineup, and as an interested basketball fan I am very eager to see if it actually will do what it should do means that I think it's a great idea that 5 teams hold all the talent in the NBA, are you seriously telling me that is the limit of what you are able to understand Bill?
Straw-fucking-man. And you're asking if I am daft? The point is that you made a critique about economics being unsustainable, and then turned around and made a comment about wanting league pass, which illustrates a desire to pump money back into the system. You're inconsistent on the economic issue. "This can't work!" a week later..".I'm tempted to spend money on it now!"


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Anyhow, I se what you guys at are getting at but no, I assure you, I don't think stacking teams is a good idea, but now that this has been stacked, I am totally interested to see what they do, almost exclusively because of Nash.
Nobody said you think stacking teams is the best idea from a basketball perspective, the point is that you're wanting league pass undermines your previous point about economic troubles. Clearly this ploy generates the excitment necessary to get you thinking about spending $200 on league pass, which is bjjs's point.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:05 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Are you daft? I often wonder what you guys smoke on a regular basis to say things like this. Inconsistent? You think that because I am looking at a nearly impossible to beat lineup, and as an interested basketball fan I am very eager to see if it actually will do what it should do means that I think it's a great idea that 5 teams hold all the talent in the NBA, are you seriously telling me that is the limit of what you are able to understand Bill?

I don't believe that for a minute, I think you're just being a smartarse!

But ya no, one has little to do with the other. I don't think people should kick the shit out of each other in the street either, but they do, and I rarely look away.

Anyhow, I se what you guys at are getting at but no, I assure you, I don't think stacking teams is a good idea, but now that this has been stacked, I am totally interested to see what they do, almost exclusively because of Nash.
You are one of the easiest people to critique because you leave yourself open to it. An unfortunate aspect of these discussions is that it seems like you never learn from your mistake, or even recognize that a mistake was made.

When you move the goalposts every 5 minutes, it is easy to make it look like it's everyone else that doesn't get it. Everyone else is daft.

For example, your first two posts do absolutely nothing to explain that you're interested to see what they do "almost exclusively because of Nash." Yet your latest post is clearly an attempt to steer the conversation away from what you actually said and instead into something that you can defend coherently with the things you've said previously on this subject.











With that out of the way, I'm not the least bit excited. The NFL has the best parity of all of the leagues and it doesn't seem to miss the dynasty franchises. I grant that the marketing focus is a bit different, and I see how a few key franchises could increase the success of the league, but the quality of the games is greatly reduced, no matter what the star-drawing-power is. After all, I'm interested in the game for its own sake, not necessarily for the personalities that play it, though they, too, can add something to the equation.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:40 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Whatever, GO BLAZERS!
Yeah, I guess you could look at it that way. I prefer to look at things through rose colored glasses.

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Old 11-03-2012, 02:04 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Hmm.... the Lakers are making me re-think here...hahahaha

PS. Ligeia. Shut it. you can critique me all day long if you'd like, you aren't doing anything interesting by doing it, shit changes.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:39 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Hmm.... the Lakers are making me re-think here...hahahaha

PS. Ligeia. Shut it. you can critique me all day long if you'd like, you aren't doing anything interesting by doing it, shit changes.
the heat were a 500 team, just below, for most of the first season too. give them time. when they adjust, theyll be monsters
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:57 PM   #69 (permalink)
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you sit Kobe or bring him off the bench, you have yourself a contender.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:59 PM   #70 (permalink)
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you sit Kobe or bring him off the bench, you have yourself a contender.
lol what?
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:01 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Kobe won't let Nash, Gasol, nor Dwight do their thing. It's obvious. What you have in those 3 are Fisher, some mid range jumpshooter, and some horrid free throw shooter. I don't see Nash, Gasol, nor Dwight.

Maybe it's Mike Brown, maybe it's Kobe.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:10 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Kobe won't let Nash, Gasol, nor Dwight do their thing. It's obvious. What you have in those 3 are Fisher, some mid range jumpshooter, and some horrid free throw shooter. I don't see Nash, Gasol, nor Dwight.

Maybe it's Mike Brown, maybe it's Kobe.
Lmao, wtf?? I've watched every minute of the regular season for the Lakers. Kobe is more than willing to play within the offence and not force anything. Yesterday he dropped 40 but he did it efficiently and didn't force it. Him and Howard have actually been playing very well off each other, I'm not sure how you can say Kobe is taking away from Dwight when Dwight is averagin 22 ppg. Gasol is just a pussy, but some of it has to do with him being in the high post instead of the low post. And even then, he's averaging 16 ppg. I don't get how Kobe is taking away from them. And Nash has been trying to fit in the offence and it's hurting his efficiency. Nash is the one to decide if they will pick and roll or run the princeton...how is Kobe taking away from Nash?

The problems on the offensive end have been things like Metta World Peace having the ball too much in his hands, Nash not having it enough, and the bench stinking it up. Kobe is the last problem on the offensive end. On the defensive end though, it's been a different story.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:34 PM   #73 (permalink)
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They just need to learn what Miami did. Discover early in games that guys are going to have "their night". I think Dwight should go ahead and be Dwight every night (20 / 13), but they will need to decide early whether Kobe's just going to go off or Nash is going to be the engine.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:39 PM   #74 (permalink)
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So go with option b, Mike Brown. Clearly Nash isn't working out as advertised. You're telling me using him the way he is right now isn't limiting him to the level of Blake and Fisher?
He's just a jumpshooter who can't play defense. If it's not Kobe taking away chances of Nash doing his thing, then it's Brown. All I'm saying is if Nash can do his thing and run pick and rolls as well as play a faster tempo, things will be good.

btw, one pre-season game and I believe it was the last one I distinctly remember Kobe going 1 on 5 during crunch time once again with everyone on the court. Sometimes watching Kobe Bryant is really depressing seeing the guys around him.
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Either that or the Lakers just blow, you guys decide. :cookie:
Problem is clear.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:03 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Yeah, exactly. For everyone saying that the Lakers are bad, two words: Miami Heat. Yes the Lakers are old, and Nash and MWP aren't nearly as good as they used to be. However, they are stacked and they'll figure things out. They may not be unstoppable this season, but I wouldn't count them out either. Give them 20 games and they'll improve. Give them half a season and they'll get better. And give them one offseason, and I'd be scared. Just like what happened with the Heat. It took a bit for them to gel, and now they're dominant.
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So go with option b, Mike Brown. Clearly Nash isn't working out as advertised. You're telling me using him the way he is right now isn't limiting him to the level of Blake and Fisher?
No. I'm not telling you that. How did you come to that conclusion? All I said was Kobe is not to blame for Nash's struggles. And he's not. Nash is the one to choose whether to run the princeton or run pick and roll. It's important to run Nash in some off-ball movement because it helps mix it up and makes you less predictable. As the season goes on, I trust that Nash will find that balance. I didn't expect Nash to average 10 apg. More like 8. I think he'll get there.


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He's just a jumpshooter who can't play defense. If it's not Kobe taking away chances of Nash doing his thing, then it's Brown.
Sure. But it's been 3 games. Nash only played 1.5 of those games. Give it time.

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All I'm saying is if Nash can do his thing and run pick and rolls as well as play a faster tempo, things will be good.
They don't have fast tempo players. And Nash can run pick and roll whenever he feels it.

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btw, one pre-season game and I believe it was the last one I distinctly remember Kobe going 1 on 5 during crunch time once again with everyone on the court. Sometimes watching Kobe Bryant is really depressing seeing the guys around him.
He hasn't taken too many shots that I thought he forced. He's done a good job playing within the offence. Last season he was the primary ball handler, scorer, and playmaker. Now, it's clear that he's been used as the finisher (not the initiator like last season) and he can focus on what he does best...scoring.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:12 PM   #78 (permalink)
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I believe Kobe, Pau, and Howard can all run the floor very well tbh.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:18 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Howard can. The others prefer, and have had success in, half court offence. Either way, I don't blame Brown for the team's offensive struggles like every other Lakers fan. And I definitely won't blame Kobe. Eddie Jordan is the one implementing the offence. Others coaches include Chuck Person, Bernie Bickerstaff, Darvin Ham. These guys know basketball. You can just point at one guy and say "it's his fault". And it's ridiculous that when a player struggles people just automatically look to blame Kobe. I mean dude, do you even watch the games?
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:21 PM   #80 (permalink)
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I watch Kobe enough to say that no matter how much talent he has around him, he's going to be in ride or die mode most of the times.

It's so frustrating sometimes.
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