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Someguy again 07-20-2011 11:52 AM

Hypothetical question for the Euroleague fans
 
If five of the NBA's 6th man players on five different teams signed on one euroleague team, could that make them an automatic championship team, and will a "signing-NBA player limit" rule be introduced?

MARTYNAS 07-20-2011 12:28 PM

1.It couldn't make them automatic championship team. Contenders I guess, but it also depends who are these 6men. Teams like Barca or Panathinaikos would take down those random 6men teams. Europe is no China.

2. "signing-NBA player limit" rule would not be introduced. Every league has different foreign players rules or limits. But best teams play in several competitions and has absolute freedom in market. Like in Soccer, there is no cap spaces or smth. rich teams dominates.
And Euroleague is just a international competition. It's not even a real league, it just selects best European teams from different leagues and thats it. It can't limit any signings, because afterall, it's not even their teams...

archie63 07-20-2011 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARTYNAS (Post 560984)
1.It couldn't make them automatic championship team. Contenders I guess, but it also depends who are these 6men. Teams like Barca or Panathinaikos would take down those random 6men teams.
...

Not sure about that

'trane 07-20-2011 01:22 PM

what kind of 6th man (or bench player) all star team could we come up with?

here's my list of the top guys, although i'm sure i am forgetting several...

terry
james harden
odom
crawford
barbosa
jr smith
ty lawson
antawn jamison
birdman
amir johnson
landry
gortat
taj gibson
haywood
barea
omer asik
udonis haslem
glen davis
oj mayo

you gotta think a team of lawson, crawford, harden, odom, haslem, gibson and terry could do a lot of damage in the euroleague.

archie63 07-20-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 560999)
what kind of 6th man (or bench player) all star team could we come up with?

here's my list of the top guys, although i'm sure i am forgetting several...

terry
james harden
odom
crawford
barbosa
jr smith
ty lawson
antawn jamison
birdman
amir johnson
landry
gortat
taj gibson
haywood
barea
omer asik
udonis haslem
glen davis
oj mayo

you gotta think a team of lawson, crawford, harden, odom, haslem, gibson and terry could do a lot of damage in the euroleague.



Exactly what i was thinking

MARTYNAS 07-20-2011 02:04 PM

True 'trane.

One thing. It's way harder to judge Euro players individual talent. Because it's all about the team. NBA is way more talented, but it happens, that mediocre or just Euroleague bench warmers looks better in the NBA, for example Omer Asik, Aleksandar Vujacic, Omri Casspi or Brandon Jennings. The same gamestyle is different. Ty Lawson may be better NBA player than Juan Carlos Navarro, but in Europe, it's opposite. So it's hard to judge European teams talent just like that. For NBA fans it may look weak, but it's not necessary true.
And finally, as I said, to win in Europe, you have to play like a team. Like we saw in FIBA, which is very similar to European basketball, even best talent in the world can lose and sometimes, even best players can't translate their game well. like Dwight Howard, who ironically was bad defensively.
you also need bench. Best European teams has very strong bench, their bench is basically the same strong as their starting lineup. It helps to get ready against any matchup and always show something new. You usually can't say who will be da killer, 6-8 guys can lead team to victory, it depends whos hot that day.

All these players in Tranes list looks very good for Euroleague, but I would say who IMO would be EL disappointments :
Birdman (almost sure)
Omer Asik (never ever was good EL player, he suited for the NBA)
Gortat (same. one dimensional defenders are not great in EL. EL has no super talented players and it's more a team game, so EL do not need one dimensional defenders as NBA teams)
Barbosa (didnt impressed me FIBA championships, way worse than Marcelo Huertas)

Dark Knight 07-20-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 560999)
what kind of 6th man (or bench player) all star team could we come up with?

here's my list of the top guys, although i'm sure i am forgetting several...

terry
james harden
odom
crawford
barbosa
jr smith
ty lawson
antawn jamison
birdman
amir johnson
landry
gortat
taj gibson
haywood
barea
omer asik
udonis haslem
glen davis
oj mayo

you gotta think a team of lawson, crawford, harden, odom, haslem, gibson and terry could do a lot of damage in the euroleague.

You forgot the greatest 6th man of them all.


'trane 07-20-2011 03:47 PM

i thought about him, but wasn't he a starter for most of this year?

OP13 07-20-2011 05:32 PM

Mhm.. It would be most talented team in Europe, thats for sure, but still they wouldnt win the league in first season they are playing together. But if u are adding a player like Ginobilli who actualy played Euro/International ball to a team like Panathinaikos I would be surprised if they wouldn't win it all.


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