Howard hints at leaving Orlando
Old 10-17-2011, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It’s possible that Dwight Howard is getting a bit more candid in public comments about his potential free agency in July 2012. A year ago, he was repeating the false line that the old collective bargaining agreement did not allow him to sign an extension with the Magic. Then he got cranky at the speculation over his future, suggesting on Twitter that the local media were trying to run him out of town – just like Shaq!

And recently, Howard spoke with Esquire‘s Scott Raab about why he might leave Orlando:

SR: Do you think that the drive to represent, on an iconic level, will be a factor in your free agency? Do you see yourself in a much larger market?

DH: There’s more you can do in a bigger place. I’m stuck in a tough position because I feel like right now, where I’m at, I’ve done so much. And I just don’t know what else I can do. I can’t live for everybody else. I don’t know what decision I’m gonna make as of right now. It’s been crazy. Everybody wants me to come here, come play here, come to our team, do this. It’s a great feeling, though, to be wanted.

SR: You’re gone. I can feel it.

DH: The toughest part for me is the city — the people. They’ve got burgers named after me in Orlando, they’ve got a Web site saying, “Please stay.” I love the people in the city. I’ve literally sat on the bench with a towel on my head crying, because I feel the passion in the stands. I just think about what’s going to be best for what I want to accomplish in my life. And I don’t want that door to close on me, wherever that door is. I don’t want it to close.

The doomsday alarms are going to sound in Orlando, but there’s nothing all that new or shocking here. Howard sounds torn between his loyalty to Orlando and his desire to go to a bigger market. He does not mention his desire to win a championship, though his competitiveness is beyond reproach, and it’s safe to assume the potential for rings will be a huge factor in his choice. And that, more than anything, is troublesome for Orlando.

For all the commotion over stars conspiring to move to glamour markets, there aren’t all that many examples of superstar players who left true title contenders, or teams set to contend in the immediate future, for bigger markets or better teams. The old collective bargaining deal, with its soft cap and Bird Rights, gave incumbent teams an edge in retaining their own free agents, and if those incumbent teams had convinced their franchise guys of future title contention, those guys generally stuck around. (There are, of course, some glaring exceptions, including Shaq and perhaps LeBron James, though the roster surrounding James in Cleveland did not hold the same promise as his new crew in Miami.)

The Magic might be stuck selling Howard on a post-2012 unknown. Even if an amnesty clause allows Orlando to shed Gilbert Arenas’ contract immediately upon the resumption of league business, it will still have about $57 million in committed salaries for next season. Next year’s cap level and structure are uncertain, but it’s hard to imagine any scenario where the Magic would have more than a sliver of cap room. That would leave them with only the trade market and whatever cap exceptions remain as means of improving their 2011-12 roster — a roster that badly needs an upgrade on the wing, with Jason Richardson headed into unrestricted free agency. The Magic have some interesting trade pieces — Brandon Bass, Ryan Anderson, J.J. Redick and Jameer Nelson are relatively affordable and productive — but they lack attractive draft picks, and any combination of those decent players might not be enough to net a roster-changing force.

Things get more flexible after next season. Arenas could be long gone by then, Redick’s deal for 2012-13 is fully nonguaranteed and the deals tied to both Nelson and Bass are set to expire, via player options, after the 2012-13 season. The Magic still might not have much cap room, but getting everyone’s deal one year closer to expiration helps a bit on the trade market.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've literally sat on the bench with a towel on my head crying
He was actually crying because he is stuck with Turkoglu.

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orlando is a pretty big market... and he's one of those players that can last in the league for a long time, so i would say the window is wide open
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hard cap and he doesn't have this conflict anymore.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Lulz. Wow... SOOOO unexpected. *rolls eyes*

So much for D12 being one of the "good guys" who just wants to re-sign and reward all of his loyal fans in ORL.
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He got to play with Vince Carter, Arenas and Hedo... there is not enough loyalty in the world
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He got to play with Vince Carter, Arenas and Hedo... there is not enough loyalty in the world
I'm pretty sure Vince went to Phoenix around when Hedo went to Orlando.
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I hope somebody makes a documentary that follows Van Gundy throughout this upcoming season. I'd call it 'First Inc(arceration)', after he inevitably snaps and murders the reporter who constantly stresses D12's free agency. Or, 'Stan Van Gundy: my life in pictures. No, not those pictures. That's Ron Jeremy'.
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orlando is a pretty big market... and he's one of those players that can last in the league for a long time, so i would say the window is wide open
orlando is a big market if ur talking vacation hot spots. but other than that....orland is faaaaar from being a big market....
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orlando is a big market if ur talking vacation hot spots. but other than that....orland is faaaaar from being a big market....

Especially when you consider most of the fanbases in their sports in that city. Other than the Dolphins the teams there have piss poor fans to say the least. They'd rather be on the beach then in an arena.
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Lulz. Wow... SOOOO unexpected. *rolls eyes*

So much for D12 being one of the "good guys" who just wants to re-sign and reward all of his loyal fans in ORL.
Why the F**k does a player need to "reward" his fans? He's done enough by playing his heart out for X amount of years. Trying to get the city a title.

I'd leave. Orlando isn't winning a ring with their current roster situation. I mean their stuck with Turk for a few years and are about to lose a lot of their keys players. If the company i work for looks like its about to goto crap in the coming years, and management cannot fully convince me that things will change...im gone. As much as I'd miss my friends and cooworkers, I'd say my goodbyes and do what's best for me.

Fans need to get over the notion that players owe their loyalty to them. All a player can do is try his best to make it work for the time allocated to his deal. If it doesn't work, the situation is crap and no positive change is in sight...THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO LEAVE (in a respectful manner of course).

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as long as he doesn't lie and play childish games on his way out of town, he'll be respected more than others. Wanting to leave isn't as bad as leaving in a way that disrespects fans that have supported him..... truth shall always set one free.
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as long as he doesn't lie and play childish games on his way out of town, he'll be respected more than others. Wanting to leave isn't as bad as leaving in a way that disrespects fans that have supported him..... truth shall always set one free.
Is this a reference to anyone in particular?
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I hope somebody makes a documentary that follows Van Gundy throughout this upcoming season. I'd call it 'First Inc(arceration)', after he inevitably snaps and murders the reporter who constantly stresses D12's free agency. Or, 'Stan Van Gundy: my life in pictures. No, not those pictures. That's Ron Jeremy'.
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the next star wanting to team up with other stars and get a championship that way.
i cant blame them for this mentality, i just am so sick of this ring chasing theme that is getting worse and worse.
i just hope and pray that this strike will last until the players crack and a hard cap is set. then there will be some balance to this league. otherwise the rich will just keep getting richer.
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i have no problems with players going wherever they want to go as long as they honor their contracts. once their contracts are up, they aren't obligated to do anything. just like in real life where you give ur employer advance notice if u plan to leave, players should do the same if they don't plan on resigning.
as for the argument of "being loyal to the city/fanbase". how loyal was washington to gilbert arenas or the portland fans complaining about brandon roy's contract?
these things work both ways
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not at all.
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Dwight has the right to leave. The organization has done a shitty job building around him especially after their last finals appearance. They may never win a championship with Stan Van Gundy's theory of having all 3 point shooters surrounding Dwight.
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