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Old 01-23-2013, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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#1 New York Knicks
Value: $1.1 billion
Profit: $83 million

#2 Los Angeles Lakers
Value: $1 billion
Profit: $48 million

#3 Chicago Bulls
Value: $800 million
Profit: $34 million

#4 Boston Celtics
Value: $730 million
Profit: $19 million

#5 Dallas Mavericks
Value: $685 million
Profit: $13 million

#21 Toronto Raptors
Value: $405 million
Profit: $19 million
Billion-Dollar Knicks and Lakers Top List Of NBA's Most Valuable Teams - Forbes

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Old 01-23-2013, 04:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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12th last season, this season we're 21st while averaging 18,103 (more than last season). I'm going to assume this is based on last season?

Kings at #11? (about to fold or be sold and averaged 14,000 last season in attendance) lol

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The Raptors have struggled at the gate in recent years
07-08 (19,435)
08-09 (18,773)
09-10 (17,897)
10-11 (16,655)
11-12 (16,840)
12-13 (18,103)

^ If that's struggling attendance with the shit that we've have to watch, then we should be ahead of at least 5-6 other teams in worth if it comes down to attendance.

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Old 01-23-2013, 07:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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More evidence as to the owners not having much of a case during the lockout.
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What's the attendance in Charlotte?
That's great attendance for a no playoff team!
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What's the attendance in Charlotte?
That's great attendance for a no playoff team!
15,500 (23rd in the NBA)
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The Raptors could probably cut 20-25 million in salary and still get the same result in terms of wins/losses. Then they'd be one of the most profitable teams in the league despite one being one of the most eye-bleach necessitating to watch.
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The Raptors could probably cut 20-25 million in salary and still get the same result in terms of wins/losses. Then they'd be one of the most profitable teams in the league despite one being one of the most eye-bleach necessitating to watch.
Up until last season they were profiting 25mil (according to forbes a couple years ago).
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We were actually 10th just over a year ago (25Mil profit). We're apparently worth more this year but dropped 11 spots.

The Business Of Basketball, 2011

Raptors are 10th on the "Most Valuables NBA Franchises" list.
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More evidence as to the owners not having much of a case during the lockout.
Why is that?
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A couple thoughts:

1) Raptors may have dropped relative to everyone else in part because of differences in the relative economies (Canada vs US) and their respective trajectories since then.

2) Regarding the lockout, you have to remember that the owners and the league understandably want profits and the values of their teams to rise. With each sale, the desire for these to rise is reinforced, since the prior owner's successful selling price becomes the new owner's starting point, on which they too wish to add value. I don't believe that many are willing to let their fandom, if they have any, be a detriment to their assets; they will worry about money before they worry about fans, players, staff, etc. They're really just acting in their best interests, in the same way that the players were.

This recent article, which shows an increase in the values of most NBA franchises, does kind of make the owner's point. The way that the CBA is structured may have positively contributed to their ability to be profitable and to increase the value of their franchises.

Then again, if part of the reason for the lockout was that the owners were too hard done by to continue along the same contractual lines, then this is probably evidence against that.

As for me, I'm moderately depressed that sports franchises are so highly-valued, but I'll survive.

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As for me, I'm moderately depressed that sports franchises are so highly-valued, but I'll survive.
Indeed...my 5 year plan to buy the Raptors might have to be pushed back to 10.
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Kings at #11? (about to fold or be sold and averaged 14,000 last season in attendance) lol
they're that high because the sale price, $525 mil, would make them the 11th most valuable franchise. Thats the same reason why GS is so high. Recently sold over market value and a new arena coming.
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they're that high because the sale price, $525 mil, would make them the 11th most valuable franchise. Thats the same reason why GS is so high. Recently sold over market value and a new arena coming.
the raps valuation can't be historical value, they've never been purchased. so how did the valuation come to fruition?
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the raps valuation can't be historical value, they've never been purchased. so how did the valuation come to fruition?
MLSE, owner of the Raps, were purchased last year
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