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Carlito Caliente 02-13-2012 10:34 PM

Floyd Mayweather's tweet
 
Mayweather tweeted on Monday: "JEREMY LIN IS A GOOD PLAYER BUT ALL THE HYPE IS BECAUSE HE'S ASIAN. BLACK PLAYERS DO WHAT HE DOES EVERY NIGHT AND DON'T GET THE SAME PRAISE."

I WAS a huge Mayweather fan, but what he said here pissed me off now i'm more of a FAIRweather fan than anything. Floyd was knocking on Pacquiao too for the same reason that he's an Asian thats why he getting all the pub. HELL NO! LIN ain't got recognized because he Asian...lets face it, basketball is not an Asian sport and in order for Lin to exceed expectations he needs to not only prove himself in the game he loves but also needs to overcome the social and racial barriers to make a name for himself. Matter of fact, he actually went through more obstacles than black athletes do just because he Asian. That's why Jeremy Lin got cut twice by Golden State and Houston because he Asian he's not suppose to be a baller....didn't even get a chance to prove he belongs. It would be like me saying in '97 Tiger Woods is a good player but he getting all the hype because he Black in a white men's sport of golf. Just shut ur trap FAIRweather and stop dodging Pacquiao...you would have to TKO Pacquaio to earn my respect again. STOP playing the race card because only insecure people play the race card. Jeremy Lin hustled his way into the history book of the NBA and he deserves ALL the accolades he getting now. NO ONE believed him except for himself....the cultural significance of Lin's ascent doesn't resonate nearly as much as his talents period.

Like Lebron said, if Lin can play, then he can play...that's all it's about. This game doesn't judge race. It judges your ability to play. shut up and enjoy the Jeremy Lin show, oh and fight with ur hands not your big mouth.

Don Vito 02-13-2012 10:38 PM

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BLACK PLAYERS DO WHAT HE DOES EVERY NIGHT AND DON'T GET THE SAME PRAISE.
What the fuck is he watching? Euro-league?

TORaptor4Ever 02-13-2012 10:45 PM

LOL.... Floyd must be trying to dethrone Tiger as the most hated athlete in pro sports.

What a buffoon.

DVS 02-13-2012 10:51 PM

Way to put back the black community another 20 years Money.

Ball Don't Lie 02-13-2012 10:52 PM

Hes just mad because CJ Watson stole his woman and his swag

Carlito Caliente 02-14-2012 12:43 AM

really? CJ Watson? which woman? he's got quite a few....i hope it's not the latest one he got cuz she supa hot

Toby 02-14-2012 12:55 AM

I thought it was a different kinda tweet
bock...bock....bock
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_z8sLixvtPB...d-Chicken2.jpg

Bill Haverchuck 02-14-2012 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlito Caliente (Post 614703)
LIN ain't got recognized because he Asian...

Stop playing the race card.

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lets face it, basketball is not an Asian sport
Interesting statement. Sounds like you're perpetuating a lot of what you claim others think.


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Matter of fact, he actually went through more obstacles than black athletes do just because he Asian. That's why Jeremy Lin got cut twice by Golden State and Houston because he Asian he's not suppose to be a baller....didn't even get a chance to prove he belongs.
Wrong. He did get a chance. Prior to joining the Knicks, he has more than a dozen games in which he received double digit minutes. Matter of fact, he shot 38%. He was not tearing it up.

The funny thing is, some around the league suspect that GS only gave him a chance precisely BECAUSE he is Asian and from the Bay area. Rather than work against him, it might have actually helped him get the initial foot in the door, due to a marketing/sentimental angle.

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STOP playing the race card
I agree. You and Floyd should both stop playing the race card.


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because only insecure people play the race card.
....*mirror*


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Jeremy Lin hustled his way into the history book of the NBA and he deserves ALL the accolades he getting now. NO ONE believed him except for himself....the cultural significance of Lin's ascent doesn't resonate nearly as much as his talents period.
Better.

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Like Lebron said, if Lin can play, then he can play...that's all it's about.
This game doesn't judge race. It judges your ability to play. shut up and enjoy the Jeremy Lin show, oh and fight with ur hands not your big mouth.
Exactly. Now stop acting like he was prevented from succeeding due to his race. You're getting close to acting like Floyd. Lin had a chance in GS. His 38% shooting didn't help his cause. He's not the first player to bounce around a couple of teams before sticking. Those guys weren't being discriminated against, either.

Carlito Caliente 02-14-2012 02:09 AM

Ur right on some points, but I wasn't trying to play the race card like you were indicating though. i was caught up in the moment but Floyd wasn't....he's been saying the same shit all his life.

"LIN ain't got recognized because he Asian..."

maybe it's because I didnt finish my sentence, but i was saying Lin didn't get recognized because he's Asian, he got recognized because of his talent....that's what i'm trying to say there if you know what i mean.

and i'm just being real saying basketball is not an Asian sport, it's not what we excel at. Asian kids might play basketball for fun, but most of the time it's not a career option because the height is not there. Is it wrong to say that ping pong is more of an Asian sport?

I might have exaggerated there when i said he didn't get any chance in Golden State and Houston...but you can't really deny the fact that he didn't get offered any Division 1 scholarships after being named the first team All State player of the year in California due to his ethnicity. Wouldn't you say Earl Lloyd overcame the racial barrier when he suited up as the first black to play in an NBA game? Maybe you are just getting at me for the Golden State and Houston scenarios....but garbage minutes doesn't mean much, Darko Milicic was given plenty of minutes in the garbage times in Detroit but didn't shine until he got picked up and given legitimate court time in Minnesota. Plus Lin was shouldering the weight of the Asian population so he was stressed to produce, it wasn't until after he got to New York did he then loosen up and played for the right reasons instead of trying to please the fans.

I wasn't trying to play the race card....some of the stuff I said might sound like it but you have got to agree to some degree race plays a part in his journey to success. Otherwise how do you explain that so many schools missed out on him and so many teams skipped him until now? If he's so good how could he be overlooked for so long? it's hard to understand it unless you've been through it.....

I might be wrong and might be contradicting myself here and I thank you for pointing it out, but being the 1st Asian American to make it to the big stage might be a little harder than it looks no? While on the other hand Floyd is saying how black people are not getting props for doing what they do, heck like 80% of the NBA players are black what's not being recognized? I didn't say Lin was prevented from succeeding due to his race, but rather his path is more ragged than most due to his race.....it's not a race card, it's a fact.

SomeDPlease 02-14-2012 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlito Caliente (Post 614805)
I might be wrong and might be contradicting myself here and I thank you for pointing it out, but being the 1st Asian American to make it to the big stage might be a little harder than it looks no? While on the other hand Floyd is saying how black people are not getting props for doing what they do, heck like 80% of the NBA players are black what's not being recognized? I didn't say Lin was prevented from succeeding due to his race, but rather his path is more ragged than most due to his race.....it's not a race card, it's a fact.

Dear lord, the irony.

rapsmannn 02-14-2012 02:45 AM

i hate how people are bringing race into what Lin is doing

i thought it had more to do with the bright lights of new york, or how about a guy who was 15 man on a roster, played for two teams where he couldn't get playing time, d league action, yao ming tried to get him to play in china, played for harvard in college

then explodes with four games no one in the nba ever seen coming, not just geting points but thrilling game closing shots that made the new york crowd a buzz,

best start by a starter in his first four games in the history of the nba

when you watched the highlights your in shock that he is doing that

my brother who hates basketball was talking about linsanity

Carlito Caliente 02-14-2012 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeDPlease (Post 614806)
Dear lord, the irony.

yes the irony eh, it's hard to respect someone else's opinion of you while trying to stand your ground i guess

Bill Haverchuck 02-14-2012 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlito Caliente (Post 614805)

i'm just being real saying basketball is not an Asian sport, it's not what we excel at. Asian kids might play basketball for fun, but most of the time it's not a career option because the height is not there. Is it wrong to say that ping pong is more of an Asian sport?

I'm simply saying it might contribute to the some of the same stereo-types that work against Asians.

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you can't really deny the fact that he didn't get offered any Division 1 scholarships after being named the first team All State player of the year in California due to his ethnicity.
I'm not certain about all the facts. Acie spoke about this a bit in another thread and the situation seemed more complicated. Lin made some choices, in the sense that he wanted to go to particular schools. I don't know off the top of my head what other players got schollys to schools like UCLA. But UCLA is a great ball program. Quite a few future NBA players don't receive scholly offers from UCLA despite playing very well in high school in California.

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Wouldn't you say Earl Lloyd overcame the racial barrier when he suited up as the first black to play in an NBA game?
Different time period. Really different. Different obstacles.

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Maybe you are just getting at me for the Golden State and Houston scenarios....but garbage minutes doesn't mean much, Darko Milicic was given plenty of minutes in the garbage times in Detroit but didn't shine until he got picked up and given legitimate court time in Minnesota.
Okay, suppose we go along with this example, how does this help prove the case Lin was cut because he's Asian? Was Darko cut because he is a euro? No. A number of guys bounce around a bit before they find the right opportunity that fits. It happens to players.

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I wasn't trying to play the race card....some of the stuff I said might sound like it but you have got to agree to some degree race plays a part in his journey to success.
I think the fans who talk about him make a bigger deal out of it than the people who scout and work in the NBA.


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Otherwise how do you explain that so many schools missed out on him and so many teams skipped him until now? If he's so good how could he be overlooked for so long? it's hard to understand it unless you've been through it.....
I've actually posted and article in antoher thread that touches on this. Aside from the real top players, it's hard to tell who the obvious difference makers will be. I mean, Bayless is not that great of a player, yet he averaged 30 ppg in summer league. Lots of prospects show flashes of brilliance at some point. It's not as easy as it seems to predict who will be a consistent high level player.

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I didn't say Lin was prevented from succeeding due to his race, but rather his path is more ragged than most due to his race.....it's not a race card, it's a fact.
-you're right that you didn't say "prevented from succeeding". I'm sorry for slightly misrepresnting your point.

-I'm still not 100% sure you can say his path was more ragged due to his race. I can definitely imagine him being exposed to slurs while playing ball, but some white and black players still here those too. Fans and opposing players will be mean when looking to get an advantage.

Bill Haverchuck 02-14-2012 03:05 AM

Anyway, we can all agree Floyd's tweet is lame.

Nites 02-14-2012 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck (Post 614812)
Anyway, we can all agree Floyd's tweet is lame.

At least he's admitting that he's a good player.

Windex 02-14-2012 03:10 AM

It's well known mayweather doesn't like asians... like Pac man :cookie:

Carlito Caliente 02-14-2012 03:21 AM

well you definitely looked at it from a more unbiased perspective Bill, thanks for setting me straight :yeah:

Bill Haverchuck 02-14-2012 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 007nites (Post 614813)
At least he's admitting that he's a good player.

That's true! Silver lining.

Carlito Caliente 02-14-2012 03:25 AM

im just mad that he's not fighting Pacquiao and it's like Mayweather doesn't have enough time on his hands that he has to troll on another sport

powerfulpanda 02-14-2012 11:09 AM

as a Taiwanese-Canadian that plays basketball, i can tell you that i can relate to what Jeremy Lin has gone thru, but obviously to a lesser degree because the highest level i ever played at was high school ball. i i used to go to my local rec center and they play 5 on 5 full court. i would be the only asian there. people usually already have their teams together so i had to go around and ask if anyone needed an extra guy. everyone would say no and i could tell from the look on their face what they were thinking. in the end i gathered 5 guys without a team and call next. and we would win and only then would they see that i can play. so all the times after that i didn't need to find a team. people would come ask me. you can sit there and think that race has nothing to do with it, but unless you've gone thru it, you don't really understand.
its like jeremy playing aau ball when hes 12-13 and people telling him to play another sport. who's to say that if a DIV 1 school gave him a scholarship he wouldn't get drafted and his road to the nba totally different? once your in the NBA there's no complaints, thats ur opportunity right there and its up to you to make the most of it. but it was his road to the nba was tougher than most.
people like a good story, he could be white or black but if he had to overcome of sort of adversity and make it, the story would be just as big. being is new york helps, being asian also helps. but those aren't the biggest reasons


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