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Old 06-03-2008, 12:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wow... but I guess after being in 3-4 consecutive Eastern Finals and no championships took its toll. Who do you think takes over? Avery Johnson?

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PISTONS ANNOUNCE COACH SAUNDERS WON'T BE BACK
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6/3/2008 11:11:57 AM

Auburn Hills, MI (Sports Network) - Flip Saunders will not return as head coach of the Detroit Pistons next season, the club announced Tuesday.

"Decisions like this are difficult to make," said Pistons president of basketball operations Joe Dumars. "However, at this time, I feel it is necessary to make a change."
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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damn. Maybe Toronto can pick him up.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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damn. Maybe Toronto can pick him up.
doubtful. especially since he and smitch are tight, i dont see saunders accepting a job from his old friend being canned.
i see saunders taking a year or two off.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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merged the two threads fellas.
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Oh, and that's a pretty bad move. I think Flip is the most underrated and underappreciated coach in the league. He did a lot of Minnesota and Kevin Garnett, he inherited a team from Larry Brown (Detroit) and kept them perenially on top of the conference. How much more could you ask from a guy?
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bad move IMO.
flip is a great coach.
he'll be unemployed for less than a month, teams will be all over him.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Flip to the Suns

You heard it here first folks.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Dammit ... why couldn't Mitchell be in the hotseat right now? I would of love to see what Flip could do here in Toronto.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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BC needs to fire Smitch immediately. Flip is very very underrated as a coach. Its not his fault boneheaded veterans stop listening because theyre assholes. Hes a very good xs and o's guy who runs a very solid offence and defence for that matter, and knows how to develop the young guys as well. SIGN HIM UP
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I've hated some of his moves in those ECFs, but he's an improvement over Smitch
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The players lost, but care to elaborate?

If Sheed got his ass down in the post more than 2 times a game they probably would have taken it to game 7, not to mention Tayshaun only showing up once every 2 games and choking in the 4th. Rip was their only consistant player.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The players lost, but care to elaborate?
Could the same not be said in Toronto regarding Sam then, thriller?

I think if Flip coached the Raptors last season with the same talent Sam had to work with the outcome wouldn't of been much different than what it was. Sad, but likely true.
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Sorry Doc, but Flip didnt all of a sudden start Walter Herrmann at SF to guard Turkoglu in the ORL series.

So yes, Sam destroyed any chance of us winning either of the first two games with one of the worst coaching moves in the history of civilization.
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The difference between Sam and Flip is pretty simple: in game adjustments.

Sam is decidedly stubborn and refuses to budge from his original game plan which sadly puts us behind the situation. Flip is intelligent enough to adjust his game plan and utilize his player's strengths. I would argue as well, that Flip is superior to player management than Sam ever has been, again due to Sam's stubborness to see "another" way.
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Sorry Doc, but Flip didnt all of a sudden start Walter Herrmann at SF to guard Turkoglu in the ORL series.

So yes, Sam destroyed any chance of us winning either of the first two games with one of the worst coaching moves in the history of civilization.
Sorry thrills, but look at Detroit's starting 5. Four out of the five where either all-stars this season or at least seriously considered. Also the Pistons bench with Stuckey, Maxiell, Hunter, Hayes, etc. Sam had shit to work with. I didn't agree with him starting Bargnani during the playoffs, but he had to make some kind of move to hopefully shake up the line-up.

You make Sam the head coach of the Pistons and they still finish in the Top 2 in the Eastern Conference. Players are just as accountable as the coach is for the most part in my opinion. We just have to face that fact that we really aren't that strong of a team. That's not Sam's fault.
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Sorry thrills, but look at Detroit's starting 5. Four out of the five where either all-stars this season or at least seriously considered. Also the Pistons bench with Stuckey, Maxiell, Hunter, Hayes, etc. Sam had shit to work with. I didn't agree with him starting Bargnani during the playoffs, but he had to make some kind of move to hopefully shake up the line-up.

You make Sam the head coach of the Pistons and they still finish in the Top 2 in the Eastern Conference. Players are just as accountable as the coach is for the most part in my opinion. We just have to face that fact that we really aren't that strong of a team. That's not Sam's fault.

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Sorry thrills, but look at Detroit's starting 5. Four out of the five where either all-stars this season or at least seriously considered. Also the Pistons bench with Stuckey, Maxiell, Hunter, Hayes, etc. Sam had shit to work with. I didn't agree with him starting Bargnani during the playoffs, but he had to make some kind of move to hopefully shake up the line-up.
Why did he have to make some kind of move to shake up the lineup? The one time we beat ORL in the reg season Moon played SF and played Turkey very well, Bargs wasnt on him ONE TIME the entire year except maybe on switches. Please tell me why he had to make that move, let alone do it twice after he saw how miserable it was the first time in game 2? Hes a fucking terrible coach and one day all of you will realize it. Any average to above average coach would never change his starting lineup all of a sudden come the first game of the playoffs with all of his guys healthy and with a set starting lineup in place for a good chunk of the year. Sams a doorknob.

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You make Sam the head coach of the Pistons and they still finish in the Top 2 in the Eastern Conference. Players are just as accountable as the coach is for the most part in my opinion. We just have to face that fact that we really aren't that strong of a team. That's not Sam's fault.
Sam can be hidden behind the not enough talent excuse, but as we've all seen hes absolutely deplorable with in game adjustments, matchups, and having a set offence and defence. We're the most predictable offensive team in the NBA, and our help defence was awful this season. When our team continues to make the same mistakes on set plays by the other team not knowing where to be on rotations thats on the coach. Just look at the good teams in the NBA, all of them know what theyre doing on each possession and where to be. Can you say youve seen that over the course of like 3 straight games from this team ever? At least Flip will come in and our players will know what theyre supposed to be running out there. Sams a bottom 5 coach in the NBA.
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how exactly are we supposed switch up our offense? switch from jumpshooting team to a jumpshooting team that takes shots from further away?

in-game adjustments..no one is attacking the rim and we're having problems covering their sf, we better call on jason kapono!!

people can look as smart as they wish playing hindsight, the bottom-line is that we're a soft ass jumpshooting team. we didn't lose because we were out-coached, we lost because we played a better team. seriously, without injury, how often does the weaker team really win? never almost.

Flip would suck here just as much as Mitchell. could you really imagine him trying to get our guys to rebound and defend? that would be a joke.

Great teams need motivators more than coaches. Mitchell would look like a god on the pistons.
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It seems that Dumars completely lost his mind... he is about to hire Michael Curry, yeah the one that played for the Raps, as his new coach...
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