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Old 07-20-2012, 01:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Dead on.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Good read. I never liked Carmelo, not because he and his wife are fat, but because he's one of the most selfish and arrogant players in the league, who has yet to achieve something. He will NEVER win NBA.
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Grantland had a go as well....

Jeremy Lin is leaving the New York Knicks and James Dolan has blundered again - Grantland
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Dead on.
Yep.

I still wonder what kind of effect Lin could have had on our franchise.

I think it could have been HUGE.

On a related note, it's going to be fun watching Melo destroy the Knicks again this season.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Did he ever...wow.
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carmelo does it again...
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I liked the article and agreed with everything up until it got into race.

Melo's ill will towards Lin has probably almost everything to do with the populartiy Lin received at his expense (being injured). The media was writing a great deal about how the Knicks were thriving under Lin with Melo on the sideline, Melo is a cancer, yada yada, and then finally, Lin isn't playing well because Melo the cancer is back.

I'm not saying Melo is right or wrong - but I'm quite certain that's the reason for his feelings towards Lin.

I really doubt that the "ridiculous" comment has to do with Lin's ethnicity. I think that's ridiculous and brings what is initially a intelligent article down a few pegs.

There is plenty of racial prejudice in basketball that can be written about, Melo calling Lin's contract ridiculous isn't one of them.

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I'm fine with Lin leaving for more money and not staying loyal,- but atleast three posters in this thread continually cut up stars and their agents for having no loyalty and no respect for their fan base or the teams that gave them a chance,

and yet...Lin showed to real loyalty or attempt at working out a deal with the Knicks - he leveraged his position as high as possible by using Yao's old market to his advantage.

Why is it we hold some players to higher standards then others. Why is that when some play the business game and win, they're ruining the sport, while when others do it we side with them??

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Old 07-20-2012, 02:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm fine with Lin leaving for more money and not staying loyal,- but atleast three posters in this thread continually cut up stars and their agents for having no loyalty and no respect for their fan base or the teams that gave them a chance,

and yet...Lin showed to real loyalty or attempt at working out a deal with the Knicks - he leveraged his position as high as possible by using Yao's old market to his advantage.

Why is it we hold some players to higher standards then others. Why is that when some play the business game and win, they're ruining the sport, while when others do it we side with them??
At the end of the day it's a business. Lin wanted to maximize is value and it's not like he played there for 7 yrs and left all of a sudden. I have no problems with him leaving the Knicks for nothing. Screw Melo and the Knicks
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how loyal can a player be after spending 1 year with a team?
especiailly when 3/4 of that year came riding the pine.

loyalty doesnt even come into question in this scenario.
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There is plenty of racial prejudice in basketball that can be written about, Melo calling Lin's contract ridiculous isn't one of them.
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Carmelo Anthony never ever would've made that remark about a black NBA player's contract,
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The Knicks are boring. Lin is boring. You'd think it was a match made in heaven. Even one of those blessings Lin always talks about. I guess at the end of the day the boring just needed to be less concentrated in one place.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The Knicks told him, like literally, to go out in the market and see what he could get, so he did, and they didnt match.

Loyalty?

He didnt screw anyone over.

As for Melo, he is thrilled Fields and Lin are gone, they were a threat to his point totals...his STATS!
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I'm fine with Lin leaving for more money and not staying loyal,- but atleast three posters in this thread continually cut up stars and their agents for having no loyalty and no respect for their fan base or the teams that gave them a chance,

and yet...Lin showed to real loyalty or attempt at working out a deal with the Knicks - he leveraged his position as high as possible by using Yao's old market to his advantage.
First off he's not a star and is someone who is looking for his first big payday. Look where this guy was in January. He was about to be released by the Knicks and was just coming off another stint in the D league. The Knicks told him to go out and see what the market is for himself. They also had the opportunity to extend an offer to him after the season. The Knicks two weeks prior to him signing an offer sheet said they'd match anything up to 1 BILLION dollars. He was restricted and signed an offer sheet which he was clearly entitled to do. If anything, the Knicks are the ones that didn't show the loyalty, something they proclaimed to have when it came to Lin. Jeremy Lin wasn't a whiny star complaining about where he was playing and making demands, holding an organization hostage. He was a FA for the first time in a very unique situation given his limited success. He did absolutely nothing wrong.
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As far as the racial shit goes, if we assume that Melo would never call the contract offer of a black player ridiculous, that does not mean he would not feel that way, nor does it mean that he felt that way about Lin's because Lin was Asian. The only logical conclusion that can be asserted from the underlying assumption, is that Carmelo felt free to comment on the contract because Lin was not a black player. There is enough racial shit that is unavoidable in every aspect of life in the US. Making way too far of a stretch to make a comment that is not unsupportable on the face of it (and backed up by many analysts that have said the contract would be hard to justify based on the game alone) into something racial, is just tiresome and somewhat irresponsible.
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'm leaving racism out of this as everyone knows the US is not racist at all. Not Blacks. Not Whites. Not Asians. None.

Sarcasm aside, Lin did everything he was asked to do by the Knicks AND looked out for himself in the process. I stated in another thread, as most of us here knows, the luxury tax means nothing to the Knicks. The stretch provision was a way out or a massive expiring contract that could be used in a trade.

I don't even believe the crap about Dolan either. Dolan is not an idiot - he's a billionaire but he's easily swayed by others like Isiah. I firmly believe 'Melo swayed Dolan and Dolan capitulated.

Melo would have had to be Lin's Robin and if he didn't the media would've crucified him. If he did the media would've crucified him. It was a no win for Melo. Dolan is smart enough to know to fall on the media sword to protect Melo and why? Cause for one he really doesn't fucking care, he's a billionaire. Two, Melo is tied to that franchise for years and three? He needs Melo to save face by living up to the hype that came with him cause they are stuck together.

After breaking the team of their assets for Melo, Amare and Chandler, (whom the Knicks are stuck with for years) the Knicks couldn't really keep Lin in the fold or they would have had major problems. Lin's popularity far out shined anything Melo could have done on the court.

I personally think it was the only decision the team could have made when you take into account all the variables in the situation. It still surprises me but the Knicks don't need Lin to make money.
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What's really completely fucked up, is how the Knicks traded away a bunch of really nice young players for Melo, instead of waiting and getting him in free agency. They made the trade in order to give him a bigger contract than they could have as a free agent, even tough he didn't want to sign anywhere else. And now on top of that first crop of emerging assets, they lose two more this season to make him happy. And there's still no sense that he'll ever work all that well with Amare. I mean they know how to go down a rabbit hole. Still boring though. Because it's the same shit all the time.
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Lol what a piece of shit team.
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:06 PM   #20 (permalink)
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i disagree with the carmelo part of this article i dont believe race played as big of a part in Melo's comments. if melo was asked about landry fields im sure he wouldve said something similar. i think thats just melo.
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