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Old 02-19-2012, 02:05 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i get that it wasn't intended to be racist, but how often do people use that phrase?
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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i get that it wasn't intended to be racist, but how often do people use that phrase?
All the time.
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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All the time.
Quite true actually...
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:35 PM   #24 (permalink)
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i get that it wasn't intended to be racist, but how often do people use that phrase?

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All the time.
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Quite true actually...

A description of Wayne Gretzky from one of Peter Gzowski's books:

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Sometimes he will release the puck before he appears to be ready, threading the pass through a maze of players precisely to the blade of a teammate’s stick, or finding a chink in a goaltender’s armour and slipping the puck into it . . . before the goaltender is ready to react

It's not just that this phrase had a non-racial orgin, it is actually commonly used in the context of hockey. I would be shocked if anyone working at a sports station had not used this phrase several times before.
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Neither goalie can make up for every mistake the defence makes. Thus, the fewer mistakes the defence makes, the fewer times Luongo or Schneider needs to be lights-out. If 'lights-out percentage' were a stat, both would rate very highly, but neither would 100%. The more chances you give the other team, the more likely they are to find the chink in the armour.
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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None of that changes the fact that Ottawa has lost four games in a row in regulation and goalie Craig Anderson, perhaps over-used, is showing some chink in his armor
Dan Rosen, Senior writer for NHL.com .....two weeks ago
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Last week... from an artile on theScore.com. This reference is not even about a goalie...

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I know “Captain Serious” likely isn’t that serious all the time. He’s not always at the arena, after all. But he’s shown zero chinks in his uninteresting armour.

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Old 02-20-2012, 12:35 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The guy got fired.
ESPN Fires, Suspends Employees Over Racist Jeremy Lin Remarks (Updated) | Reuters
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:54 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Absolutely ridiculous. Chink the armor is a common phrase used often to describe a weakness in something. For someone to lose their job over using that phrase as a headline is pretty insane, its doubtful that whoever wrote it would be dumb enough to try using it in a racist way when they'd obviously know the consquences.
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Old 02-20-2012, 05:12 PM   #30 (permalink)
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You guys are missing the point. The stage is bigger, the content is important, and in this case, you are looking at writing that should have been more thought out because you cannot make this kind of mistake when dealing with such a huge audience. Whether or not these guys meant to say what they said, or write what they wrote is meaningless really. Simply put, they dropped the ball and created a maelstrom of bad press and image poundin for the network. That shit gets ya fired twice, once for the act, and another time to remind the people that kept their jobs not to fuck up like that.
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Old 02-20-2012, 05:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You guys are missing the point. The stage is bigger, the content is important, and in this case, you are looking at writing that should have been more thought out because you cannot make this kind of mistake when dealing with such a huge audience. Whether or not these guys meant to say what they said, or write what they wrote is meaningless really. Simply put, they dropped the ball and created a maelstrom of bad press and image poundin for the network. That shit gets ya fired twice, once for the act, and another time to remind the people that kept their jobs not to fuck up like that.
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ESPN isn't some piddly little media outlet. We're talking BIG business here.... and in big business you can't afford to make those kinds of mistakes. I don't believe that the guy was/is a racist but you have to know better.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:25 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I know he screwed up on the big stage but I still feel for the guy. He doesn't deserve to have his career ruined by a stupid mistake that is unjustly deemed un-politically correct. I read somewhere that he has used the idiom "chink in the armor" in writing many times, and didn't make the connection that Lin was asian and this would be deemed offensive by over-analytic, sensitive readers. Some compassion from ESPN wouldn't hurt, a suspension to please their readers would have been more moral.

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Old 02-20-2012, 10:31 PM   #33 (permalink)
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youre right man, however you're not taking into account the sheer volume of viewers...there were a LOT of over sensitive and pissed off people.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:33 PM   #34 (permalink)
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That irks me that so many people would feel that way then.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:24 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Steven A. Smith called LeBron a "Nigga" in one of his bashing videos towards LeBron. He said it so casually that no one even noticed.

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Steven A. Smith called LeBron a "Nigga" in one of his bashing videos towards LeBron. He said it so casually that no one even noticed.

Stephen a smith call lebron a nigga - YouTube
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:50 AM   #37 (permalink)
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This is a league wholly steeped in race. This "mistake" was made by the same network who likes to cut to shots of token Asian fans after every Jeremy Lin basket during a live televised game. Promoting race, and this great Asian hope subtext isn't racist right? the man isn't playing for his race, right? Ironically this whole thing is happening during Black History Month.
I agree that these white guys shouldn't have lost their jobs over this because of not knowing the racial context of using a slur that I've seen and heard used to describe Asian people more times than I can recall by friends, family, co-workers, etc. And, to the people on here crying about over-sensitivity, I've never heard this word used in the context of a positive conversation. It's an epithet, smothered in stereotypes. For a lot of people who aren't white, words like that fucking sting.
But firing these guys evades the larger issue. Which is how they didn't see the racial connection between using "chink" in both its original form and racist derivative. As far as I know, the word came into being as a way of linguistically characterizing Asian people by their eyes.
I'm against racism, but also against shutting down, disavowing, and sweeping under the rug the possibility of engaging with the issue in a more open and honest way. Instead we get the old school overt racism being hammered as a thing of the past while the new school subvert racializing and profiting of Lin's race to an "Asian Market" is the preferred model in an economically expansionist league (whose product just happens to be basketball) masking it as a feel good story, calling it "Rudy 2.0".
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:05 AM   #38 (permalink)
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That's your opinion, but I'm standing by thinking of "chink" as it is meant to be taken in the context of the idiom. I don't believe the phrase was meant as a racial pun, I think it was an honest mistake.

chink - A narrow opening, such as a crack or fissure.
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That's your opinion, but I'm standing by thinking of "chink" as it is meant to be taken in the context of the idiom. I don't believe the phrase was meant as a racial pun, I think it was an honest mistake.

chink - A narrow opening, such as a crack or fissure.
if a black player for the knicks had a stand-out defensive performance against boston, and espn ran an article entitled "niggardly knicks stop celtics," would that raise eyebrows in your opinion?
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:17 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Is niggardly commonly used in sports discussion? Chink in the armour is.
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