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MIA IN 4 1 5.88%
MIA IN 5 3 17.65%
MIA IN 6 4 23.53%
MIA IN 7 2 11.76%
IND IN 4 0 0%
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:20 PM   #201 (permalink)
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I'd expect that he'll get the same suspension that Bynum got for decking Barea.... How long was that one again? 5 games? 6?
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:25 PM   #202 (permalink)
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I'd expect that he'll get the same suspension that Bynum got for decking Barea.... How long was that one again? 5 games? 6?
That was 5 games but was later reduced to 4 games because of the shortened season.

66/82 ~= 80%
4/5 = 80%
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:53 PM   #203 (permalink)
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This is my understanding too. From what I read, one ref wanted to call Haslem's a 2 and was talked out of it. How that's not an instant 2 is absolutely cowardly on the ref's part. Get some balls and make the proper call.

Pittman should be out for the playoffs. He already doesn't play, so that wink should have him gone.
Haslems was not a 2 by any means. He actually went for the ball hard and didnt have the athleticism to get high enough to do it but followed through hard - 1 to me.

Pittman was definitely a blatant 2 and was a scrub sending a message to another scrub defending his superstar - that's something I can respect and something that needs to be done on occasion. Really, these 2 are no names so who really cares - this was about sending a message to the Pacers and the rest of the league and good on them.

Regardless, Pacers - especially 'woe is me no one gives us respect Granger' started something they couldn't finish - and if I were Larry I would be f'n pissed about that myself. It was the wrong tactic and all they did was wake a sleeping giant.

For that I say now Spurs and Heat in the Finals. Thanks for the motive Grange.

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Old 05-23-2012, 03:53 PM   #204 (permalink)
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Just watched all three fouls -

Love Haslem's foul. That's what OKC should of done to Artest - none of this whiny, I'm going to flop and take exception to every little bit of contact to bring the officials attention to you.

Hansbrough is reckless - he got a little payback. Nothing wrong with either of those fouls. Hard foul for hard foul - tit for tat.

Pittman, it looked really bad, but I don't think the running clotheline elbow was his original intention, I think he was going for the boxout. But he's slow, and he sucks, and he's awkward.

Players like that injure other players. But who cares, he's a scrub. Suspend him for 5 games.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:00 PM   #205 (permalink)
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Just watched all three fouls -

Love Haslem's foul. That's what OKC should of done to Artest - none of this whiny, I'm going to flop and take exception to every little bit of contact to bring the officials attention to you.

Hansbrough is reckless - he got a little payback. Nothing wrong with either of those fouls. Hard foul for hard foul - tit for tat.

Pittman, it looked really bad, but I don't think the running clotheline elbow was his original intention, I think he was going for the boxout. But he's slow, and he sucks, and he's awkward.

Players like that injure other players. But who cares, he's a scrub. Suspend him for 5 games.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:04 PM   #206 (permalink)
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Just watched all three fouls -

Love Haslem's foul. That's what OKC should of done to Artest - none of this whiny, I'm going to flop and take exception to every little bit of contact to bring the officials attention to you.

Hansbrough is reckless - he got a little payback. Nothing wrong with either of those fouls. Hard foul for hard foul - tit for tat.

Pittman, it looked really bad, but I don't think the running clotheline elbow was his original intention, I think he was going for the boxout. But he's slow, and he sucks, and he's awkward.

Players like that injure other players. But who cares, he's a scrub. Suspend him for 5 games.
Pittman is debatable regarding intent...I'm not inside his head but to me from the outside it looked clear to be an elbow to intentionally hurt.

I agree with the other points.
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This is not intentional? What the fuck are you watching??

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And then he winks afterwards...WTF?!?!
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Just watched all three fouls -

Love Haslem's foul. That's what OKC should of done to Artest - none of this whiny, I'm going to flop and take exception to every little bit of contact to bring the officials attention to you.

Hansbrough is reckless - he got a little payback. Nothing wrong with either of those fouls. Hard foul for hard foul - tit for tat.

Pittman, it looked really bad, but I don't think the running clotheline elbow was his original intention, I think he was going for the boxout. But he's slow, and he sucks, and he's awkward.

Players like that injure other players. But who cares, he's a scrub. Suspend him for 5 games.
Seriously? In my opinion the fact that the Haslem foul was clear retribution makes it even more punishable. The Hansborough foul was hard, but he went for the ball and then the follow was overly aggressive (flagrant 1 was the right call). If 40 seconds after that you make that kind of hard foul on Hansborough, it certainly is clear that your intention was to payback and hurt him. I dont think any play where you are trying to hurt opponent on purpose is part of basketball. Haslem had no intention of going for the ball and he didnt try to stop Hansborough from making the basket, he tried to hit him and hurt him. That for me is ejection. And as he wasnt ejected, it would be even more fair to get a suspension, but unfortunately NBA doesnt have the balls to do it.

That Pittman foul was even worse. That was a clear elbow on guy running towards basket and had nothing to do with basketball. It was fortunate that there wasnt any injury involved, but that could have made some serious damage. Pittman should be suspended until end of season in my opinion (which hopefully is only 2 games away ).
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This is not intentional? What the fuck are you watching??

Yeah fact is, he looked to his left saw him coming and almost lunged at him with his elbow. That was intentional.

As for Haslem. I'm all for a hard foul to take a stand, but that was hitting a player in the head with both arms, and not even trying to make it look like he was going for the ball. A hard foul i have absolutely no problem with, but that was a Flagrant 2 no question.
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Watching again and again and again... I still think it's a result of Pittman being a slow, awkward scrub.

He saw Stephenson coming in and awkwardly went for the box out, but didn't get there in time. Still out of control and dangerous and worth a suspension. But only 2 games.

The wink...what context is it in...who is he winking at. It's like 3 minutes after it happened.
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If Miami looks to be winning the next game, I would be very alert if I was Spoelstra to get DWade and LeBron out of the game as soon as possible. After those fouls I think some scrubb from Indiana might just go for retribution in next game.
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If Miami looks to be winning the next game, I would be very alert if I was Spoelstra to get DWade and LeBron out of the game as soon as possible. After those fouls I think some scrubb from Indiana might just go for retribution in next game.
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If Miami looks to be winning the next game, I would be very alert if I was Spoelstra to get DWade and LeBron out of the game as soon as possible. After those fouls I think some scrubb from Indiana might just go for retribution in next game.

Haslem and Hansbrough were not a 2 but a 1. Hard fouls and statements happen in the playoffs. Jeezes guys, do you think these players are screaming like the posters are on here? A little Rucker's ball - it's the playoffs in the NBA not Euroleague.

Now, Pittman was a total 2 and should be suspended.

As for scrub retribution, hey why not? Scrubs are not going to determine the outcome of this series anyways. Besides, Stern I'm sure has instructed the refs to come down hard. As well as put in his calls to both teams making it clear to play hard, not dirty.

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Haslem and Hansbrough were not a 2 but a 1. Hard fouls and statements happen in the playoffs. Jeezes guys, do you think these players are screaming like the posters are on here? A little Rucker's ball - it's the playoffs in the NBA not Euroleague.
Which part of the definition of a Flagrant 2 is not clearly and totally met by what Haslem did? Hard fouls are fine, but it has to be a basketball play. That was an intentional head shot, no where near trying to play basketball. Do you think if Hansbrough landed and cracked his head it would be a 2? Making up your own rules is great, but the NBA already has its own, and they weren't enforced.
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Watching again and again and again... I still think it's a result of Pittman being a slow, awkward scrub.

He saw Stephenson coming in and awkwardly went for the box out, but didn't get there in time. Still out of control and dangerous and worth a suspension. But only 2 games.

The wink...what context is it in...who is he winking at. It's like 3 minutes after it happened.
Yes I guess he is winking because he thinks he is handsome and is trying to pick up.

He intentionally elbowed him in the throat. Just stop...
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Which part of the definition of a Flagrant 2 is not clearly and totally met by what Haslem did? Hard fouls are fine, but it has to be a basketball play. That was an intentional head shot, no where near trying to play basketball. Do you think if Hansbrough landed and cracked his head it would be a 2? Making up your own rules is great, but the NBA already has its own, and they weren't enforced.
gimme a break...the only one not truly enforced was the blatant one by Pitman. If it bothers you so much go watch Euroleague.
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again with the moral outcry for shit alpha males are doing on the court. It's wjat happens man. He'll get punished don't worry my pretties, he's not getting away with anything.
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Yes I guess he is winking because he thinks he is handsome and is trying to pick up.

He intentionally elbowed him in the throat. Just stop...
Can't really argue that...he looked at him and took several steps with his elbow clearly up and aimed at his throat. Really was a horribly blown call. I would think the refs botched this however both teams came out with a clear agenda that I think the game would have played out the way it was going to regardless. Even Bird is annoyed with is own team.
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again with the moral outcry for shit alpha males are doing on the court. It's wjat happens man. He'll get punished don't worry my pretties, he's not getting away with anything.
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