Early MVP Talk
Old 02-05-2013, 12:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who's front runner for the MVP.

Durant? James?

I have to say I'm pretty surprised how bad the Clippers are without Chris Paul and I think there's a strong case that's he's most valuable to his team. That team can't lose to Washington and the Raptors. I want to say CP3 based on how terrible they are without him!.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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it just feels like there's no way durant won't win it.
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Until Lebron doesn't get the NBA's full support, I don't see how he doesn't get the call.

He shouldn't but I think they give it to him again. They're desperate for him to be the next great.
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Until Lebron doesn't get the NBA's full support, I don't see how he doesn't get the call.

He shouldn't but I think they give it to him again. They're desperate for him to be the next great.
lebron does many more things to impact a game than durant, though durant has gotten better in that aspect this season. james still deserves it but in 2 years I think durant will unanimously win it over if he can continue on the trajectory he's on now
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lebron does many more things to impact a game than durant, though durant has gotten better in that aspect this season. james still deserves it but in 2 years I think durant will unanimously win it over if he can continue on the trajectory he's on now
He might, and I'd say he's a better player, but I'm not sure he's more valuable....
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think that whoever's team ends up with the best record (OKC, MIA, LAC) will probably play a big factor in determining who'll win it.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Lebron. Dude does everything.
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He might, and I'd say he's a better player, but I'm not sure he's more valuable....
Lebron is more valuable to the heat than Durant is to ok. Now before y'all be gunning for my head hear me out. The heat won their championship based on their defensive tenacity. Lebron is the focal point of that defense. He inspires Bosh and wade to play incroyable defence. He is the piston to their defensive engine. He also facilitates their offense. He is by far the best point forward in the league better than a lot of the pgs in the league. Without him the heat don't win that championship and dare I say it have a real tough time winning the east let alone another championship. With okc ibaka is the piston to their defensive engine not Durant. And Westbrook could compensate offensively somewhat for his absence.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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They both have incredible stats lines. Both their teams are going to win close to 60 games.

Durant wins because he has not won it before
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They both have incredible stats lines. Both their teams are going to win close to 60 games.

Durant wins because he has not won it before
defence, defence..................

I pick the superior defensive player every time even IF we're to say lebron and durant are equally gifted offensively (which imo they're not)
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Durant wins because he has not won it before
this. and to carp's point about the NBA trying to make LeBron the next great, yeah, to an extent, but with Durant the efforts have been even more exaggerated. I remember in his 3rd year they were marketing him in commercials as "future hall of famer kevin durant"

i still say you could give it to LeBron every year for the next five years and it would be legit, but the MVP is as much a tool of recognition as it is marketing, and the NBA wants to spread that love.
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this. and to carp's point about the NBA trying to make LeBron the next great, yeah, to an extent, but with Durant the efforts have been even more exaggerated. I remember in his 3rd year they were marketing him in commercials as "future hall of famer kevin durant"

i still say you could give it to LeBron every year for the next five years and it would be legit, but the MVP is as much a tool of recognition as it is marketing, and the NBA wants to spread that love.
You're right.... giving it to Durant fuels the Lebron vs Durant for five more years too
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but just.. lebron is superior. in almost every aspect. durant if he came after lebron era or before lebron era might have deserved it, probably would have a couple years, but lebron is just... >>>>>>>> than any player out there. the things he does are super human. I don't think he's just being forced into greatness, I think he is one of the greats, and depending on how the rest of his career goes, THE greatest of all time.
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Carmelo Anthony should be the runaway this season. Maybe Chris Paul as well considering the Clippers are dogshit without him(and consequently how awful and overrated Blake Griffin is).
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Carmelo Anthony should be the runaway this season. Maybe Chris Paul as well considering the Clippers are dogshit without him(and consequently how awful and overrated Blake Griffin is).
agree with the cp3 nomination, but blake griffin is far from awful. overrated by nba fans maybe and probably, but definitely not awful. still a top 10 pf
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lebron shot 93% from the field last night and had a PER of 41.04....i know thats one game but he's been having an incredible season. Tom Habestroh tweeted that if melo made his next 200 baskets LBJ would still have a better FG% than him. he is having an unbelievable season. i would think he wins it based on the numbers he's putting up and his efficiency.
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I just looked at the stats for the guys brought up on here for mvp. ignoring lebron's effect on a game not measured by stats, he steamrolls everyone statistically, even your precious durant
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lebron shot 93% from the field last night and had a PER of 41.04....i know thats one game but he's been having an incredible season. Tom Habestroh tweeted that if melo made his next 200 baskets LBJ would still have a better FG% than him. he is having an unbelievable season. i would think he wins it based on the numbers he's putting up and his efficiency.
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but just.. lebron is superior. in almost every aspect. durant if he came after lebron era or before lebron era might have deserved it, probably would have a couple years, but lebron is just... >>>>>>>> than any player out there. the things he does are super human. I don't think he's just being forced into greatness, I think he is one of the greats, and depending on how the rest of his career goes, THE greatest of all time.
superhuman = never getting called for a charge, or a foul, or even being told to shut up once in a while instead of bitching about every single call and non-call every single game..... At least Durant knows how to keep his mouth closed, I think that deserves two extra votes. I've tried to like Lebron, but that face is just so irritating.... and what the hell is with those ugly scarves??? Yuck. Zero stars awarded. Ten points for Griffindor! Three thumbs up for Durant, kid is just likeable.
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