Consistency for inconsistency
Old 08-18-2009, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was fazed with a question today. The question was simple, what causes a player to be consistent and what causes a player to be inconsistent. I looked at young players and realized they can be both. I looked at older players and as well noticed they could be both. Then I struggled to figure why a player can simply have an amazing game one night, and barely progress the next. Now I am sure everyone here thinks they have the answer, what I am looking for is an intellect debate. Maybe there is something on hormones, genetics, and maturity. Now I know I don't have a PHD, but there must be some theories worth exploring.

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Old 08-18-2009, 02:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I always thought the way to be Consistent is to have a mentality like Iverson or Tim Duncan who either play each game like their last or just bring the lunch bucket and play each game their hardest because you are being paid for this. Ray Allen always said that the NBA stands for "No boys allowed" and that he always tries his hardest to try and stay on a roster because at anytime he can be easily booted off a team because of the new talents coming in droves every year and try to replace him.
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i think it has a lot to do with focus and maturity, especially focus. some guys just look disinterested, but if you take a look at the players that always come prepared, that always have their game face on, that are always focused, you will see that they are most often very consistent. they may not be stars, but they deliver their game every night.
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Old 08-18-2009, 02:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Inconsistency is another factor that is hard to explain, maybe the player feels like shit one game and just doesn't give his all or they just can't get into the "zone", I know majority or us play basketball and we all know once you start missing a lot of shots is that we just don't "feel it" you can't feel the ball going in.

I really don't know whats the psychological aspects of this sort of thinking but I think its maybe depression? or just that your body was overworked some time before the game? didn't exercise enough before the game? stretching I always thought is a factor.

I'm only 17 so I really don't know shit , so I would like to learn from other people's perspectives on this topic.

Awesome topic to bring up btw DuCa00795.
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There are no brain teasing theories. All players are different, like the rest of society they develop at differing speeds. Some simply have the mental toughness and can mature quicker, some shy away from crunch time and wither in clutch situation, others thrive on it and want the ball when it matters most. Others have physical attributes but no Basketball IQ, while others with lesser physical attributes thrive due to higher IQ & perseverance.
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i think it has a lot to do with focus and maturity, especially focus. some guys just look disinterested, but if you take a look at the players that always come prepared, that always have their game face on, that are always focused, you will see that they are most often very consistent. they may not be stars, but they deliver their game every night.
There must be some sorta of physical problems too, look at Lamar Odom on his off games.
He comes in pumped and he has that sugar rush from the ridiculous amount of candy he consumes but it's one of those games where shots just don't fall and he's just trying to attack and attack but not making a huge effect on the game and not contributing enough for the team.
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I think that it also depends a lot on a particular players skill set. Some skills are more easily reproduced than others.
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focus, maturity, effort - yeah all those things are factors for sure.

I think a big thing is confidence too.
To me it seems that consistency is moreso a mental issue than one of physical skill.

sometimes, it's a matter of playing with yourself and not overdoing it.

Fact is, players are always faced with different challenges night in, night out in the NBA. You really have to know yourself and your game to succeed consistantly.
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Alright so NBA players for example, we all know they have good Bball IQ's and the physical attributes, but why do we see some players thrive one night and be ineffective the next?
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Alright so NBA players for example, we all know they have good Bball IQ's and the physical attributes, but why do we see some players thrive one night and be ineffective the next?
Comes down to the different opponents defence,opportunity, and like everyone else pro athletes have shitty days.
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There must be some sorta of physical problems too, look at Lamar Odom on his off games.
He comes in pumped and he has that sugar rush from the ridiculous amount of candy he consumes but it's one of those games where shots just don't fall and he's just trying to attack and attack but not making a huge effect on the game and not contributing enough for the team.
i would say that this is just a matter of focus. being pumped and being focused are not the same thing, imo...
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Alright so NBA players for example, we all know they have good Bball IQ's and the physical attributes, but why do we see some players thrive one night and be ineffective the next?
Well you have to count in the different teams they play like outside factors, let's say a certain player dropped 35 points on a certain and had an outstanding game. Then the next team who is well-known for its defensive abilities try to shut them down that player the next game and succeed in shutting them down completely and destroys that players confidence because they learned of his/her playing skill set and focus on stopping that.
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i would say that this is just a matter of focus. being pumped and being focused are not the same thing, imo...
Exactly being pumped is usually leading into the game and wears off. You need focus the whole game in all aspects to succeed.
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Comes down to the different opponents defence,opportunity, and like everyone else pro athletes have shitty days.
Jeff, if a player loses playing time because he hasn't been performing well and the coach opts to pull him off the bench, you can blame that on because he played against these certain teams. What if they play that same teams once, light them up and then next time around completely play like garabge.

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Perhaps Benzo can explain to us why Mo Pete was so inconsistent?
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Perhaps Benzo can explain to us why Mo Pete was so inconsistent?
probably because dudes kept bringing his sandwiches late....
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Jeff, if a player loses playing time because he hasn't been performing well and the coach opts to pull him off the bench, you can blame that on because he played against these certain teams. What if they play that same teams once, light them up and then next time around completely play like garabge.

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There really can be a meriade of answers:


- Opposing team makes adjustments
- Lack of experience
- Player has lost his confidence between meetings
- Player is perpetually inconsistent
- Bad preperation
- Poor conditioning
- Poor coaching

etc...etc...etc...
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Alright Mr.I'mneverwrong. Amuse me on your theory or why you think some players are consistent and some are inconsistent.

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Alright Mr.I'mneverwrong. Amuse me on your theory or why you think some players are consistent and some are inconsistent.

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There are no theories, plainly every player is different. BTW, do we really want to go there again. Enough is enough.
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I think it all comes down to mental toughness combined with preparation and professionalism.
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