Clippers to lure Lebron / Top FA, before hiring coach
Old 05-22-2010, 01:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Clippers to lure Lebron / Top FA, before hiring coach

Hrmmm ... Maybe Lebron might just persue being Kobe's biggest rivial in the same city?

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CHICAGO -- The Clippers are considering holding off on hiring a coach until after July 1 to offer a superstar free agent a voice in the process, part of a recruiting pitch to lure him to Los Angeles, NBA.com has learned.

The team is known to be preparing a bid for LeBron James, among others.

The Clippers are declining comment on the search for a replacement for Mike Dunleavy, who resigned Feb. 4 to focus solely on front-office duties and then was fired as GM. The team decided not to offer the coaching job to Kim Hughes, who took over for Dunleavy and coached the Clippers through the rest of the season.

League insiders attending the pre-Draft camp here said the Clippers are prepared to wait until July to name a head coach if they feel the decision can be used as part of an intriguing, if unusual, offer to their top target.

The Clippers can make a credible offer to any free agent. They will have approximately $17 million in cap space, a requisite if James is the main target, as many believe him to be. Plus, the Clippers' biggest hole seems to be at small forward, one of the positions James can easily fill.

They can surround James, or whoever, with All-Star Chris Kaman at center, Blake Griffin at power forward (as the No. 1 pick of the 2009 Draft works back from a knee injury), Eric Gordon at shooting guard and Baron Davis at point guard, along with the eighth pick in the June 24 Draft. The marketing possibilities of Los Angeles also would be part of the recruiting pitch.

The Bulls also have a coaching opening and are expected to pursue James, among others, as well.

"There might be a couple of teams that decide to wait until after free agency begins to hire their next coach," one executive said, noting how the openings could be used to attract a mega-star such as James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Joe Johnson and probably Amar'e Stoudemire.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you consider it...

A core of

Lebron
Kaman
Griffin
Gordon
Davis

Plus they get the 8th pick this year...

sounds pretty good on paper...
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Clippers roster does that to you. Looks good on paper but implodes in a heartbeat. Just like Raptors come to think about it.
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Old 05-22-2010, 02:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you consider it...

A core of

Lebron
Kaman
Griffin
Gordon
Davis

Plus they get the 8th pick this year...

sounds pretty good on paper...
That lineup doesn't scare me one bit. No bench, Davis/Kaman are overrated imo and Griffin is an unknown still imo, mainly due to the injury.
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That lineup doesn't scare me one bit. No bench, Davis/Kaman are overrated imo and Griffin is an unknown still imo, mainly due to the injury.
I don't agree that Davis and Kaman are overvalued assets. Davis, when healthy, is still a stud. And Kaman is just a borderline all-star - it's not like people tout him as an MVP candidate. However, I do agree that Griffin is an unproven variable.

Even so, it's still better than what surrounded him in Cleveland. Although, they seem to be missing 3 point shooting in this lineup.
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That lineup doesn't scare me one bit. No bench, Davis/Kaman are overrated imo and Griffin is an unknown still imo, mainly due to the injury.
I don't think their overrated. It's just that the lane will be clogged up 24/7 because all we have in that lineup is inside scorers and chemistry wise it wouldn't work.
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I don't think their overrated. It's just that the lane will be clogged up 24/7 because all we have in that lineup is inside scorers and chemistry wise it wouldn't work.
Thats what people said when the celtics got Garnett Allen and had perkins and pierce...

Seemed to have worked out...
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Anyone who doesnt fear a Baron, Gordon, Lebron, Griffin, Kaman lineup is out of their minds or bases it on the Clippers being the Clippers.

You have 3 guys who can create off the dribble and 2 post players who can consistantly finish around the rim(yeah, Griffin hasnt played reg season yet, but in pre season he showed he can catch the ball consistantly and finish way above the rim, and explodes to the rim).

You have Lebron James who will get one of the best shooters in the NBA a lot more open shots in Gordon, and take a lot of the ballhandling and thus bad shots from overdribbling with Baron away.

They'd instantly become a top 3 rebounding team in the NBA, and a much better defensive team. Lebron having a guy who you can throw the ball down to and he can get baskets for himself consistantly is something hes lacked all of his career(Shaqs on his last legs and Jamison can only do it vs smaller guys). And really, theres potential that itll be 2 guys once Griffin develops.

Lebron being on the team will help Griffin develop a ton because his confidence will be high from the get go with all the easy baskets Lebron will create for him.

The only thing the Clippers would be lacking is a reliable bigman off the bench, but that can easily be obtained in the offseason. They have a very solid backcourt duo off the bench with Blake and Butler, both of whom compliment Lebron very well with their outside shooting.

That lineup would be scary. Thats probably the best situation Lebron can put himself in(realisitcally with regards to the teams with cap space) outside of going to CHI with Rose Noah and good role players and a nice then trading chip with Deng.
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Anyone who doesnt fear a Baron, Gordon, Lebron, Griffin, Kaman lineup is out of their minds or bases it on the Clippers being the Clippers.

You have 3 guys who can create off the dribble and 2 post players who can consistantly finish around the rim(yeah, Griffin hasnt played reg season yet, but in pre season he showed he can catch the ball consistantly and finish way above the rim, and explodes to the rim).

You have Lebron James who will get one of the best shooters in the NBA a lot more open shots in Gordon, and take a lot of the ballhandling and thus bad shots from overdribbling with Baron away.

They'd instantly become a top 3 rebounding team in the NBA, and a much better defensive team. Lebron having a guy who you can throw the ball down to and he can get baskets for himself consistantly is something hes lacked all of his career(Shaqs on his last legs and Jamison can only do it vs smaller guys). And really, theres potential that itll be 2 guys once Griffin develops.

Lebron being on the team will help Griffin develop a ton because his confidence will be high from the get go with all the easy baskets Lebron will create for him.

The only thing the Clippers would be lacking is a reliable bigman off the bench, but that can easily be obtained in the offseason. They have a very solid backcourt duo off the bench with Blake and Butler, both of whom compliment Lebron very well with their outside shooting.

That lineup would be scary. Thats probably the best situation Lebron can put himself in(realisitcally with regards to the teams with cap space) outside of going to CHI with Rose Noah and good role players and a nice then trading chip with Deng.
They'd be lucky to squeeze into the playoffs in the west unless a few more moves were made to add depth. BTW, Davis sucks.
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They'd be lucky to squeeze into the playoffs in the west unless a few more moves were made to add depth. BTW, Davis sucks.
What? If Lebron goes to the Clippers, this shit should be a "sticky." Come on, Jeff. :facepalm:


- 90% of what Thriller said is bang on. And the other 10% might turn out to be true; it really just depends on how the Clippers sign Lebron, if they get him. I`ll elaborate.

- If Lebron walks and the Clips use cap space to sign him, then they have to relinquish their birds rights on Butler, Blake, Outlaw...etc...That could cause a temporary set back in putting together a bench. However, they do have the 8th pick to use on either a combo guard or a bigman. Plus, LA will still have Deandre Jordan to play 15 MPG. After that, they'd have to pick up some bench players with vet and league minimums. If you use cap space, I believe you lose the ability to sign players with the MLE and BAE. That just leaves minimums.

Now, the figures I have are different than the author of this article. Based on the info I have from Hoopshype, Davis, Gordan, Kaman, Griffen and Deandre Jordan cost under $34 million, and since the cap is going to be approx. $56 mill, the Clips should have about $22 mill in space, so long as they don't qualify Mardy Collins (I doubt they do). Perhaps $2 mill of that is a cap hold on the 8th pick? I'm not sure. But even then, the Clips should have $3 million left to sign somebody. If there is no cap hold on the pick, then they have $5 or 6 million to get a couple of bench players.

So, even if the Clips sign Lebron using cap space, they should have AT LEAST a lineup of:

Kaman
Griffen
Lebron
Gordon
Davis

Bench: Deandre Jordan, 8th pick, FA signed with $3 mill, a couple of minimums.

And, if the Clips are smart, maybe they buy a pick, or trade future picks (2011 and beyond) to Minnesota or Memphis in exchange for one or two of their 2010 late 1st round picks. That`s a way of getting some cheap talent for the bench.

That`s the worst case scenario. Assuming Lebron and at least 3 of the other starters play 75+ games, I think that team easily wins 55+ games; more than that if the variables change.
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They'd be lucky to squeeze into the playoffs in the west unless a few more moves were made to add depth. BTW, Davis sucks.
It wont be hard adding depth to a team with that caliber of starting 5. Especially with the Clippers cap space and the Lebron lure. Davis is great when motivated.

Saying a team with Lebron and those 4 players wont get into the playoffs is showing mass haterade on your part. I'm the biggest Lebron hater out there and want him to never get a ring, but if he joined the Clips with that lineup and they stayed healthy and obviously added some bench guys which wouldnt be tough, theyd be incredible.

Obviously the key is health though with injury prone players, but again, IF healthy, 55+ wins.
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The Clippers have about 22 million assuming they won't give Collins a qualifying offer.
In a S & T they send Kaman to Cleveland for LBJ and Griffin to the Raptors for Bosh.
Draft a center at number 8 since this is a big mans draft. Sign Brad Miller or Haywood for mid level exemption or even Shaq at vet. minimum.
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I'm not going to argue pure basketball aspects of such a move...most of what is being said here makes perfect sense.
Unfortunately, NBA became too much of a show and as we know when running a show stage matters.
Despite its location Clippers has been known as a bad stage.
Unless Lebron wants to become a historical image that changed perception around this organization I don't see him going there. Besides after such a dissapointing exit he is going to focus on short term goal only - championship.
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They'd be lucky to squeeze into the playoffs in the west unless a few more moves were made to add depth. BTW, Davis sucks.
Why would they need to be lucky to squeeze in the west that would struggle with the Athleticism and length this team would have. Please explain to me why Baron Davis sucks. I think you should judge the clippers on the actual talent they have not on their reputation.

Anyways the perfect team for Lebron would be the clippers, like thriller said above they would have basically all other the 4 spots locked up and easily can fill up the bench. That Clippers team would easily be the most exciting team since the early 2000 Kings, but unfortunately Donald sterling is the owner :facepalm:
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Having LeBron and Kobe fight for the spotlight in LA would be fun to see.
Clips with LeBron would become a serious team to contend with, but Lakers, OKC, and others would still make the season a dog fight.
Not sure if LeBron has the confidence to take Kobe on in his backyard and also be the ugly step brother in LA?
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