Cavaliers offered 4 picks to NOH for #1
Old 06-11-2012, 03:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Anthony Davis a lock for the No. 1 pick? Yes, and it's not even close. Forget about the fact that the Hornets are saying publicly that they are still considering their options. He's the guy.

You can also forget about them trading the No. 1 pick. Sources say the Cavs offered them No. 4, No. 24, No. 33 and No. 34 for No. 1. And sources said the Cavs got a firm and quick "No!"
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Big mistake on NOH's part... they'd still have the #10 and they'd be able to draft all upside! THey've just jinxed Davis, he'll be a bust now!!!
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They could've possibility had 5 rookies on the same team?

Yikes.

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Old 06-11-2012, 04:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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throw shit at a wall and see what sticks, why not. i hope the Raptors called and offered something. you never know what kind of a mood a GM will be in. maybe dude just got laid? you never know.
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^ fucking yes
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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New Orleans knows what they have. An anchor. The last thing they need is a bunch of crummy players that they'd have to pay to throw overboard.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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if they had all those picks from cleveland they still wouldn't beat anthony davis with a bunch of d league guys
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Why would NOH say no that quickly? A bit silly really.... 2 top 10 picks and 5 that are in the top 35? With some intelligent drafting that could be an instant rebuild.... with 5 players on cheap rookie contracts.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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NO should ask for Cleveland's unprotected first-round pick in 2013 instead of either #33 or #34.
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NO should ask for Cleveland's unprotected first-round pick in 2013 instead of either #33 or #34.
You can't have trade next year's first rounder if you're trading this years unless you've already secured a second first rounder for either year due to CBA rules stating you can't at any one time have two consecutive years without a first round pick. Unless that rule was changed in the last CBA then I don't think it's possible. Now if the deal was done after the draft, it's possible.
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Why would NOH say no that quickly? A bit silly really.... 2 top 10 picks and 5 that are in the top 35? With some intelligent drafting that could be an instant rebuild.... with 5 players on cheap rookie contracts.
Agreed, though 5 rookies on a team could really cause some major aggravations leading to a possible negative atmosphere. It shouldn't be a quick decision either way. I would think Cleveland should offer TT somehow so that it's not all rookies.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think the Hornets made the right choice. Make of it what you will, but it seems like the accepted wisdom in the NBA is that you always trade 4 quarters for a dollar in return. Given the impact that a single player can have on the game, I, too, would not trade Davis for those picks.
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You can't have trade next year's first rounder if you're trading this years unless you've already secured a second first rounder for either year due to CBA rules stating you can't at any one time have two consecutive years without a first round pick. Unless that rule was changed in the last CBA then I don't think it's possible. Now if the deal was done after the draft, it's possible.
Right, I forgot about that. Still could ask for Cleveland's unprotected 1st-round pick in 2014 or beyond.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
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cavs are greedy as hell. can somebody tell them they had the #1 pick last year in irving.

gilbert is terribly desperate. so happy they didn't win the lottery
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To me that is an easy easy no, it's laughable almost.

#4? Ok that's a good pick you can still pick up MKG or Beal etc....

But what are you realistically getting for No. 24, No. 33 and No. 34? A solid bench player at best? I know there are rare circumstances when those guys shine but not something you can bank on.

So then you are trading Anthony Davis for the 4th best player in the draft and a bench player or two.

Not a smart move IMO.
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I think the Hornets made the right choice. Make of it what you will, but it seems like the accepted wisdom in the NBA is that you always trade 4 quarters for a dollar in return. Given the impact that a single player can have on the game, I, too, would not trade Davis for those picks.
I just don't think Davis is four quarters. I think who you get at 4 might be better.... might be.... but that's why you need to trust your scouting staff and I think since they haven't finished their job I don't know how you could say not without any hesitation.
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To me that is an easy easy no, it's laughable almost.

#4? Ok that's a good pick you can still pick up MKG or Beal etc....

But what are you realistically getting for No. 24, No. 33 and No. 34? A solid bench player at best? I know there are rare circumstances when those guys shine but not something you can bank on.

So then you are trading Anthony Davis for the 4th best player in the draft and a bench player or two.

Not a smart move IMO.
Couple of assumptions though....

1) That Davis is going to be a Tim Duncan-like talent.... no guarantee of that.

2) That you won't be able to find a good player at #4 and #24 (which is entirely possible).... not to mention the fact that they have the #10 pick as well.

I dunno... I still see Davis as more of a Camby clone than a Duncan/Shaq/Griffin type who's going to come in and deliver 20 & 10 right away.

I guess we'll see.
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:18 AM   #18 (permalink)
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If Cleveland was serious they would of offered #4 and Irving.

Nobody in their right mind would put any value into a bunch of picks that might not even make your team.
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