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Old 07-17-2008, 10:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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you cant really say that though doc...

that is a ego killer

getting traded for absoultley nothing...for a prospect that will most likely play in the summer league and thats it.
No, you check your ego at the door.

Camby's always been a baby when it comes to personnel moves. See when he was traded to the Knicks and his reaction then.

Hell, if I was him I'd be happy because at least he's going to an exciting team to watch an a team that has a shot to make the playoffs unlike the mess that is in Denver right now.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:44 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Camby is wrong to say that.

They had three massive contracts. Two of them belong to superstars. One belonged to Marcus Camby. Times get tough (as they are in Denver) who does he think is going to be the first to go?

Marcus Camby doesn't put asses in the seats, but he's paid like he does. Denver clearly wasn't going anywhere with this roster, and is currently spending WAY too much money for repeated first round shit kickings. Put all that together and you've got a quick ticket out of town.

And what is he, dissapointed that he wasn't traded for anyone? That's the most prima dona-esque bullshit I've ever heard.

He'd have preferred his new team give up basketball assets for him? Yeah, that makes sense. He'd really rather Elgin Baylor had said "Well, we can get him for free, but then he might feel bad about himself. Let's give up Thornton for him"

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

If I were him I'd be ecstatic that I just left a team in a shitty situation for an on the rise team that didn't even have to sacrifice anything to get him. It's an ideal situation and he's whining because his ego's bruised? What a douchebag.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:53 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Camby is wrong to say that.

They had three massive contracts. Two of them belong to superstars. One belonged to Marcus Camby. Times get tough (as they are in Denver) who does he think is going to be the first to go?

Marcus Camby doesn't put asses in the seats, but he's paid like he does. Denver clearly wasn't going anywhere with this roster, and is currently spending WAY too much money for repeated first round shit kickings. Put all that together and you've got a quick ticket out of town.

And what is he, dissapointed that he wasn't traded for anyone? That's the most prima dona-esque bullshit I've ever heard.

He'd have preferred his new team give up basketball assets for him? Yeah, that makes sense. He'd really rather Elgin Baylor had said "Well, we can get him for free, but then he might feel bad about himself. Let's give up Thornton for him"

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

If I were him I'd be ecstatic that I just left a team in a shitty situation for an on the rise team that didn't even have to sacrifice anything to get him. It's an ideal situation and he's whining because his ego's bruised? What a douchebag.
yea thats true i never even saw it that way....camby is a douche!
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:15 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The Nets offered Denver a package of young players (Sean Williams, Josh Boone, Marcus Williams, a take your pick kind of scenario) and expiring contracts for Marcus Camby, but the Nuggets didn't want salaries coming back, Nets officials said.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...ers_for_camby/

Wow, NOW this is the worst trade ever. They give up Williams, Williams, Boone, and expirings to pay less lux tax? Effing idiots.

And what on earth is NJ doing. Are they really considering letting Boone and Williams/Williams go just so they don't have to pay their salaries in '010? Can we get Boone for Joey Graham or something?
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Wow, NOW this is the worst trade ever. They give up Williams, Williams, Boone, and expirings to pay less lux tax? Effing idiots.

And what on earth is NJ doing. Are they really considering letting Boone and Williams/Williams go just so they don't have to pay their salaries in '010? Can we get Boone for Joey Graham or something?
They're basically writing off the next two seasons and clearing as much space as possible for 2010. It's an interesting move considering they just dealt for Iverson a year ago, but it appears that's their thinking.

But yeah...why not take Sean Williams or Boone back to replace Camby? Or Marcus Williams to replace whatever horseshit point guard they plan on running out there next season? They're all on rookie deals...why not take at least one of them?

And the Nets are looking for quality size I guess. They're young and not very good up front. Although why trade RJ to dump salary (again, allegedly for 2010) and then take on another big contract?

This whole situation is so strange.
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:37 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I kind of doubt Denver has enough capspace by '010 to really compete in that market. Kmart, Nene, and Anthony are all overpaid and have long contracts going past then. Then they'll probably resign JR Smith and Kleiza when he expires if they're smart... when you have teams like Brooklyn, Cleveland, and us that will have 50 mil expiring in that year, it'll be hard for them, especially for a less than desirable market like Denver, especially for a team that's known for non team play, non defense, and non winning. They're almost in the same situation as Sacremento where'd it be BETTER to have capspace a different year, then they don't have to go against more desirable markets like Brooklyn.

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Old 07-17-2008, 05:14 PM   #27 (permalink)
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They had three massive contracts.
anthony, iverson, martin, and nene are all making 10+ a season. even with iverson expiring next season, they still have kenyon fucking their cap for another 2-3 seasons. what a mess.
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Clippers are set now. They can play Kaman at center and he is a very good post scorer. Also, now Camby can run the defense blocking shots and rebounding. Good part of the deal went to the Clippers. I don't know what Denver's thinking but we won't be seeing them in the playoffs next season.
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:31 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I'm with Camby on this one. I would be very insulted if I got traded for a 2nd rounder and we all know he's much more worth than that. I can't wait to see him rip it up against Denver when they play them this season. Make him drop 40 and grab 18 boards
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm with Camby on this one. I would be very insulted if I got traded for a 2nd rounder and we all know he's much more worth than that. I can't wait to see him rip it up against Denver when they play them this season. Make him drop 40 and grab 18 boards
How can you be with him on this?

He ripped the team he's going to for not giving up talent to get him

Can you not see the outrageously large flaw in that?

He wants to weaken his team to feed his own misguided sense of self worth.

Fuck him. Thats total bullshit. Take your 10 million dollar contract and shut the fuck up Marcus.
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:53 AM   #32 (permalink)
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You can't say you are not with him at all Swag. I mean he was treated like shit in that trade. Do you really think he's worth just a 2nd rounder? I know Camby's a fag and everything. But he does have a right to feel insulted by the trade. Not too insulted to say something to the media, but insulted.
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sure he should feel insulted... but he should also be laughing in the inside knowing that his new team will be staked and they didnt lose any talent in the trade.
this should actually make him determined to play even harder and motivate him.
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You can't say you are not with him at all Swag. I mean he was treated like shit in that trade. Do you really think he's worth just a 2nd rounder? I know Camby's a fag and everything. But he does have a right to feel insulted by the trade. Not too insulted to say something to the media, but insulted.
so he should have been happier if his new team was weaker after trading a valuable asset to get him?

whatever happened to 'the past is the past, this is my new team and i'm happy to be here.'
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You can't say you are not with him at all Swag. I mean he was treated like shit in that trade. Do you really think he's worth just a 2nd rounder? I know Camby's a fag and everything. But he does have a right to feel insulted by the trade. Not too insulted to say something to the media, but insulted.
First of all...I'm not sure why you consider him a fag. I do not.

It's not about what he thinks. He can think whatever the fuck he wants. But at the same time, if he was intelligent, he'd realize that it was a move that had to be made.

He's making 8 figures. The Nuggets struggle financially. Its not fucking rocket science. They didn't want money back. If you're making 10 million dollars, you put your employer in an awkward position when the payroll is too high. Trading him for players would have accomplished nothing. If he can't understand why he got traded for nothing then he and the people who handle him are absolute morons.

And to then come out and say you wish your new team would've given up something to get you? That is downright ridiculous.

"I would've preferred the Clippers weaken themselves to acquire me. That way, rather than putting a team together that could contend for a playoff spot, we could win 25 games and I could pat myself on the back because I got traded for a talented young player."

Does that sound stupid to you?

He's whining because his ego got bruised. The NBA and its teams are fucking businesses. If he doesn't get that, and allows trade values to determine his self worth, then again I will say, fuck you Marcus Camby.
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damn swag, quit beating around the bush all the time. try telling us what you really think...
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Camby's criticizing his old team for showing lack of commitment to winning, that deserves to be criticized. He's a year removed from DPOY and a deserving candidate this past season. if the Nuggets can't at least get a up and coming prospect, first round pick with that capspace, it's poor management on the Nuggets part. I don't know why everyone must act like a sourpuss whenever a NBA player opens their mouth. it makes you sound like a bigger bitch bitching about them.
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You can't say you are not with him at all Swag. I mean he was treated like shit in that trade. Do you really think he's worth just a 2nd rounder? I know Camby's a fag and everything. But he does have a right to feel insulted by the trade. Not too insulted to say something to the media, but insulted.
Just curious...in what sense is Camby a fag??

He is a Cigarette in London??

Or are you using it to insinuate, that he is a homosexual??

Hell he is black....why don't we just throw around some other words.

I expect better.
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Camby's criticizing his old team for showing lack of commitment to winning, that deserves to be criticized. He's a year removed from DPOY and a deserving candidate this past season. if the Nuggets can't at least get a up and coming prospect, first round pick with that capspace, it's poor management on the Nuggets part. I don't know why everyone must act like a sourpuss whenever a NBA player opens their mouth. it makes you sound like a bigger bitch bitching about them.
Clearing salary is not poor management.

Allowing it to build up was poor management. Where were his complaints about management when they signed like 5 fucking guys to 8 figure deals?

They didn't want an up and coming prospect. I don't see why that is so hard for people to understand. This trade was purely financial. They had the option to get young guys from NJ and turned it down. All they wanted was his salary off the books, plain and simple.

Recognizing a shitty situation and cutting your losses in order to rectify the situation as quickly as possible is in no way poor management.

And to be very clear, I love it when NBA players open their mouths. I'm all for getting away from the cookie cutter interviews. I am not, however, a fan of self fellating whining, especially when it is totally unintelligent.
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i understand the deal was purely financial.

what camby is saying is that he feels like a scapegoat being dumped for nothing. he's not complaining that he was only dealt for a second rounder because he's valued more then that.

signing five players to 8 figure salaries shows commitment to winning

dumping them for nothing means that you're not, and you're fucking yourself being that you don't have cap flexibility even with iverson expiring next season.

fans don't care about the business, why should we? we want to see winning teams.
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