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Old 05-15-2011, 05:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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name me one other guy that come close to 14 rpg in the playoffs vito. are you expecting him to be the best in the league or he's shit? yipes...
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Why do you keep brining up the third option? He still gets a shit load of touches and being the third option doesn't affect rebounding. Also since when is 8 rebounds good? Hes getting paid a ton of money, 8 rebounds isn't shit. He should be averaging 14 rebounds per game.
I wish we could get 19/8 from Bargnani as our number 1 option. And since when is 8rpg bad? He had an off year and still grabbed 8rpg and was an all-star. Bosh is not the type to average 14rpg, not many are and for you to say that shows ignorance and absolute bias.
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Why do you keep brining up the third option? He still gets a shit load of touches and being the third option doesn't affect rebounding. Also since when is 8 rebounds good? Hes getting paid a ton of money, 8 rebounds isn't shit. He should be averaging 14 rebounds per game.
Wha? You do know that Wade and James are 2 of the best rebounding wings in the league right?

There are only so many rebounds to go around...
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Wha? You do know that Wade and James are 2 of the best rebounding wings in the league right?

There are only so many rebounds to go around...
If they are two of the best rebounding/scoring wings then what the fuck is the point of Bosh? Throw in Ed Davis and you still have a championship team.
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I wish we could get 19/8 from Bargnani as our number 1 option. And since when is 8rpg bad? He had an off year and still grabbed 8rpg and was an all-star.
He didn't have an "off year". Bosh is an okay rebounder, and 8.3 is what I'd expect from a finess type of PF. He's not a bruiser; he wasn't brought in to be one.The main factor is that he plays with a SG and SF combo whom average 14 rpg combined. Few, if any, other teams get the type of rebounding on the wings that Wade and Lebron provide. Having said that, Bosh could probably hit the offensive glass harder.
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If they are two of the best rebounding/scoring wings then what the fuck is the point of Bosh? Throw in Ed Davis and you still have a championship team.
Wow! I know you dislike and have bitternes towards Bosh but that was just.....wow. SMH
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Honest questions:

If you were building the Cavs, do you think you could have done better than Danny Ferry?

What REALISTICALLY could you have done differently than him? You keep claiming the Cavs couldn't build a winner, so James was justified in leaving. However, you never actually list anything concrete that could have been done.

Also, if you were running the Cavs and already had a good center, would you use cap space on the following free agent?:

22 ppg and 5 apg, led the league in steals and was named to the all NBA FIRST defensive team.

Would you sign the player?

Let me be clear..... when I say "build a good team" I mean making sure that you have at least 2 "all-star calibre players" on your squad as well as a decent 3rd option.

The Celts... The Lakers... the Spurs... The Thunder... The Bulls... all of those teams fit that bill. All of them also have players who can play strong D.

Lebron's Cavs were solid defensively but lacked the all-star calibre talent (IMO) to go all the way in the playoffs. In addition to that Lebron had to work VERY hard each and every game to ensure that his team was on track. He had to score, rebound, pass AND defend. That wears on a player when he has to do it for 80+ games.
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If they are two of the best rebounding/scoring wings then what the fuck is the point of Bosh? Throw in Ed Davis and you still have a championship team.
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Wow! I know you dislike and have bitternes towards Bosh but that was just.....wow. SMH
What does Bosh do that Ed Davis can't bring? In fact, Davis is a better hustler/rebounder/shot blocker and post player. They don't need Bosh to shoot jump shots all day, after all he is the third option.
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He didn't have an "off year". Bosh is an okay rebounder, and 8.3 is what I'd expect from a finess type of PF. He's not a bruiser; he wasn't brought in to be one.The main factor is that he plays with a SG and SF combo whom average 14 rpg combined. Few, if any, other teams get the type of rebounding on the wings that Wade and Lebron provide. Having said that, Bosh could probably hit the offensive glass harder.
It was an off year. Ultimately he had a very slow first month adjusting to the Miami system. Otherwise he probably averages his usual 10rpg or very close to it. Which nobody other then the usual haters can complain about.
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Let me be clear..... when I say "build a good team" I mean making sure that you have at least 2 "all-star calibre players" on your squad as well as a decent 3rd option.

The Celts... The Lakers... the Spurs... The Thunder... The Bulls... all of those teams fit that bill. All of them also have players who can play strong D.

Lebron's Cavs were solid defensively but lacked the all-star calibre talent (IMO) to go all the way in the playoffs. In addition to that Lebron had to work VERY hard each and every game to ensure that his team was on track. He had to score, rebound, pass AND defend. That wears on a player when he has to do it for 80+ games.
More dodging and added qualifications. Answer the questions.

Would you have signed the player I listed? Answer the fucking question, or stop your comments about Cleveland not knowing how to build a winner for Lebron.

For the record, since it seems to have gone over your head, the question about the unnamed player is VERY relevant to what you just posted.
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What does Bosh do that Ed Davis can't bring? In fact, Davis is a better hustler/rebounder/shot blocker and post player. They don't need Bosh to shoot jump shots all day, after all he is the third option.
you're digging a deep hole for yourself here dude...
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Lol that Bosh is the x factor. Bosh is screwed. I've said this from the day he left. He's going to be a scape goat.

If they don't win it will be because of Bosh. If they do win there is no way Bosh outplays Wade or James, so they won't win because of Bosh. So unles Wade and James take them to a title... it will all fall on Bosh and be because of him. Just an eventuality.

And Bosh is going to get abused by the Bulls IMO, but doesn't mean the heat can't win. It's going to be the defence on Rose and Wade that decides it.

And Ed Davis wouldn't make Miami better, but Garnett or Varajao would .

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you're digging a deep hole for yourself here dude...
How? Ed Davis is better than Chris Bosh.
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How? Ed Davis is better than Chris Bosh.
no, he's not even close right now.
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How? Ed Davis is better than Chris Bosh.
Jesus, sometimes I really wonder about you. Lol
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no, he's not even close right now.
How so? What can Bosh do that Davis can't? Flop? Chuck shots?
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More dodging and added qualifications. Answer the questions.

Would you have signed the player I listed? Answer the fucking question, or stop your comments about Cleveland not knowing how to build a winner for Lebron.

For the record, since it seems to have gone over your head, the question about the unnamed player is VERY relevant to what you just posted.
1. I've seen this movie before and I know how it plays out lol.... I list what I would have done (or what possibilities I think may have been out there) and you then proceed to tell me that those ideas are either idiotic or impossible (or both)

2. I'm not your bitch and I don't answer to you so don't think that you can DEMAND anything from me. I'm sick and tired of your bullshit and I just don't care to be a part of it any longer. Put me on ignore if you don't like my posts. Simple solution that'll likely save you a lot of typing.
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average 19/8, for starters.
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