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Old 07-12-2014, 12:32 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Those comments didn't lead to you being called a hater. You said "one of the worst contracts in the league".

Being overpaid, being not worth your contract, does not equal being one of the worst contracts in the league. You're moving the goal posts. Stop whining.
And I also said from the start that it will be one of the worst contracts in the league by the 3rd year of the deal. Like I said I, stand by that. Time will tell.

You're calling me a whiner for standing by what I said. Yet you're the one whining about me saying he's overpaid and harping on my opinion. Where am I whining exactly, I'm reiterating my opinion, and you're bitching about said opinion. Go to bed!
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Old 07-12-2014, 12:36 AM   #62 (permalink)
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I kinda stopped reading after the whole "bosh is the Duncan/Garnett of the new generation".
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Old 07-12-2014, 12:37 AM   #63 (permalink)
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First of all, you said 2-3 years. That's pretty soon. 2 years.

You denied being a hater. If a player signed a deal, and I said that is going to be one of the worst contracts in 2 years, I would fully and completely admit that I think that player sucks. I don't know why you're denying that you're hating.

Again. There are some really really really really bad contracts in the NBA. If you honestly think that Bosh's contract will be one of the worst, that's ok, but you are hating.
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I kinda stopped reading after the whole "bosh is the Duncan/Garnett of the new generation".
Oh come on, stop hating.
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I kinda stopped reading after the whole "bosh is the Duncan/Garnett of the new generation".
If he's not, who is?
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If he's not, who is?
why does there have to be one? Maybe nobody is that good in this generation? They're two of the greatest PFs of all-time.
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Bosh is very good. That's why Houston was willing to also pay him $20+ mill per season. The thing is, Houston was probably only over shooting by a year, since it was a 4 year deal. Miami's deal is ugly because it is for 5. Those final 2 years have the POTENTIAL to be an autrocious cap killer. I think if used properly and filling the role of top dog, and putting up 20/10, CB4 can be worth $18 mill, so a slight overpay ain't bad. I just wouldn't be confident he does that past year 3.
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If he's not, who is?
Gasol and dirk? If they're too old then no one lol. Doesn't need to be a duncan and garnett. He averaged like 12 and 6 in the playoffs, he doesn't get prime duncan and garnett tittle.
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If he's not, who is?
You are comparing a second-tier star to 2 bonafide hall of famers/mvp's. Garnett and Duncan can be debated as the best pfs of all time. You are putting Bosh in that category?
Currently, there is no Duncan/Garnett of the current generation, and really, there doesn't need to be one. You can't just pick a player for the sake of it. When one comes along, he'll come along. It may be years, decades even, before we witness that type of greatness from the PF position. And Bosh is not that. Not by a long shot.
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why does there have to be one? Maybe nobody is that good in this generation? They're two of the greatest PFs of all-time.
Their likely isn't, but if I had to pick one it would be Bosh. The other young PFs are getting their shots and their points. No other star young big has sacrificed their individual game like Bosh has, something that both Garnett and Duncan did. Stats are similar although Bosh is a little light on the rebounds.

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Bosh is very good. That's why Houston was willing to also pay him $20+ mill per season. The thing is, Houston was probably only over shooting by a year, since it was a 4 year deal. Miami's deal is ugly because it is for 5. Those final 2 years have the POTENTIAL to be an autrocious cap killer. I think if used properly and filling the role of top dog, and putting up 20/10, CB4 can be worth $18 mill, so a slight overpay ain't bad. I just wouldn't be confident he does that past year 3.
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I really think this was a knee-jerk reaction from Miami. Hours after Lebron leaves they offer Bosh the max? I think this was purely a 'oh shit, we need to throw money at Bosh and have him stay' ploy. Because if they lost lebron and Bosh in the same week, it would've been disastrous for Miami. They could have easily gone from eastern conference champs to worst in the east in one season.
I don't hate the deal, I just think it was a reactionary move that they had to do in order to stay relevant and still be considered a decent team. I truly think CB will have a stellar season next year and earn that max contract. A few years from now, however, it is going to be a pretty bad contract and the heat will suffer. But at the moment, it really was something they had to do. Their hands were tied and had to make this move.
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CB is going to be a player for some time still. i dont' know what you guys have seen that shows him slowing down. Duncan is ancient in comparison and looked great this year. Why is it that Bosh is supposed to hit some wall a few years from now?
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I also think people don't understand how good Bosh is on defense. He doesn't make mistakes. He doesn't make mistakes. He plays almost a perfect game every game.

Last year. Wade... horrible. Lebron...horrible.

Spo and Riles know how good Bosh is.

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CB is going to be a player for some time still. i dont' know what you guys have seen that shows him slowing down. Duncan is ancient in comparison and looked great this year. Why is it that Bosh is supposed to hit some wall a few years from now?
As long as MIA is smart and moves him back to his natural position, rather than forcing him to play C, he'll last IMO.

There's a lot of guile to his game. Not quite Dirk but similar.... esp. with his extended range. I just hope that Riley fills out a decent roster around him and doesn't leave him on an island like he was when he was here.
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CB is going to be a player for some time still. i dont' know what you guys have seen that shows him slowing down. Duncan is ancient in comparison and looked great this year. Why is it that Bosh is supposed to hit some wall a few years from now?
He averaged 12 and 7 last year and 15 and 5.6 this year. I get why his numbers are so low but Garnett at 35-36 did better than him in all of his miami years same with Duncan. You're acting like he's on their level, stop it. No one is denying he's going to be good but you're overrating him. He's not worth his contract, I'd get it if he was an MVP and/or finals MVP but he isn't.
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I think he's worth it, but I also believe guys like lebron should make 40 mill. Its unfair that this Max exits because u can't give Bosh the same as lebron cause lebron the better player.

In the end tho, he is like a lesser Duncan/Garnett, likely will make the hall of fame and best raptor in history.. (Apologies to Hakeem but getting a pay check doesn't count as a contribution)

Stop using stats, Bosh hardly gets touches and his rebounding numbers are down because he plays with lebron. I remember when lebron stole a rebiund and u could see Bosh visibly upset.

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He averaged 12 and 7 last year and 15 and 5.6 this year. I get why his numbers are so low but Garnett at 35-36 did better than him in all of his miami years same with Duncan. You're acting like he's on their level, stop it. No one is denying he's going to be good but you're overrating him. He's not worth his contract, I'd get it if he was an MVP and/or finals MVP but he isn't.
I think Bosh has his best basketball ahead of him.
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Miami still a good team with Bosh and wade, but I don't see any reason to fear them.
The Raptors are a legit top 3 seed in the east, and could be better than last year.
Playing at their best, they could dance with anybody.

If i remember correctly, we were among the top in games played within 3 points in the last few minutes of 4th quarter, which means a lot of the games we lost we competed till the last possessions, many of which were good western conference teams.

We also were league leaders in 4th quarter point production/differential.
They learned to close games this year and also competed during minutes that decided a game's outcome.
We also have a deeper bench than a lot of nba teams, miami wont have much of a bench anymore since vets wont sign minimums to go there ring chasing now

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It'll be interesting to see if Bosh can handle another team again by himself. I know he carried our Raptors almost to the playoffs. Miami is very flexible right now, can sign multiple players for the max
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