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Major 07-09-2008 10:39 PM

Bogut to Sign $72.5M deal
 
I think he signed for the perfect amount. Not to high and not too low. Almost didn't happen either, Bogut was close to going to Australia. :reporter:

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Originally Posted by RealGM
Andrew Bogut will sign a five-year, $72.5 million extension with the Bucks later this week, his agent said Wednesday. Bogut was expected to sign the extension Friday, agent David Bauman said.

The agreement was first reported Wednesday by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on its Web site.

Bucks spokesman Dan Smyczek also confirmed Wednesday that there was an agreement on a deal.

"He's thrilled," Bauman told The Associated Press. "He feels like Milwaukee really stepped up and demonstrated to him he's a valued member of this team."

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Kirby 07-09-2008 10:45 PM

Meh, who cares. It's the Bucks I mean come on..Bucks..

Major 07-09-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FlashDWade3 (Post 42452)
Meh, who cares. It's the Bucks I mean come on..Bucks..

What's wrong with the Bucks? They got RJ from New Jersey. They're keeping Bogut, and they signed their draft pick Alexander who will most likely start at PF this year. They're line-up looks pretty good if you ask me.

PG - Williams (17.2 ppg / 6.3 ast)
SG - Redd (22.7 ppg / 3.4 ast)
SF - Jefferson (22.6 ppg / 4.2 rebs)
PF - Alexander (16.9 ppg / 6.4 rebs - West Virginia)
C - Bogut (14.3 ppg / 9.8 rebs)

That's what I call solid.

Kirby 07-09-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 42459)
What's wrong with the Bucks? They got RJ from New Jersey. They're keeping Bogut, and they signed their draft pick Alexander who will most likely start at PF this year. They're line-up looks pretty good if you ask me.

PG - Williams (17.2 ppg / 6.3 ast)
SG - Redd (22.7 ppg / 3.4 ast)
SF - Jefferson (22.6 ppg / 4.2 rebs)
PF - Alexander (16.9 ppg / 6.4 rebs - West Virginia)
C - Bogut (14.3 ppg / 9.8 rebs)

That's what I call solid.

Let's watch them play shall we?:evillaugh:

Adequate Swag 07-09-2008 11:10 PM

I think Villanueva will start at power forward, with Alexander providing bench help at the 3 and the 4...but obviously that could go either way.

They have a lot of money tied up in a few contracts at this point.

This team, while solid and likely a playoff team, does not scream title contender to me. Especially when their less than excellent depth is taken into consideration.

This seems like a long term commitment to mediocrity.

Major 07-09-2008 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashDWade3 (Post 42461)
Let's watch them play shall we?:evillaugh:

I would anyday!!! :dancing:

But seriously if this team could get their chemistry a little more they'll be a pretty good team this year. I'm looking at about 47 wins for these guys.

Kirby 07-09-2008 11:49 PM

Charlie V's contract is done this year.

The MVP of West Hollywood 07-09-2008 11:57 PM

That's a pretty high price for a 3rd option big man, that's Bosh money. I know he has potential to be a lot more for them, but I dunno, I think he deserved more around 10 mil.

jumplvlan23 07-09-2008 11:58 PM

I never understood why this team is so crap.
They usually have solid talent, just can't put it together.

Major 07-10-2008 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jumplvlan23 (Post 42475)
I never understood why this team is so crap.
They usually have solid talent, just can't put it together.

Well last it was basically Redd and Mo Williams running the show for them. Bogut was only averaging about 12ppg. And RJ and Alexander were yet to be o the team. But now with Jefferson, a quality #8 drafter, and Bogut are returning this is when they start to look pretty good.

Claudius 07-10-2008 09:30 AM

I still see them as a 36-40 win team in the East. They'll be extremely competitive though.

INSIDER 07-10-2008 09:46 AM

I like Bogut... he's a big, tough Center with loads of potential and he keeps getting better...
that being said however, that is a lot of money to throw at him.
thats like 14.5 million a year...
seems too high IMO.

the bucks are big underacheivers.
they've got a great team on paper, but it never comes out in games. Redd is a one-diensional B-list star who is only good for one thing. Williams seems to be missing something that would make him an elite PG.
CV will coast most of the season.
and their bench isnt good.

the big things they got going for them is Bogut and the newly acquired RJ - who should bring some excitement to the team.
we'll see how Alexander does, he has the skills to be very good as well.

but overall, this team seems to be just so blah...
maybe its because they're from Milwaukee.

Adequate Swag 07-10-2008 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSIDER (Post 42494)
maybe its because they're from Milwaukee.

Boom :haha:

But yeah, you're right. They've been trying to build a team around a great shooter. Never worked with Ray Allen, and it wasn't going to work with Michael Redd either.

Jefferson is a slasher at the 3 though, and I think Mo Williams is one of the more underrated point guards in the league. Redd will get less looks simply due to the added talent, but they will be better looks.

Bogut is excellent in a number of facets of the game, and has been consistently improving. It might be a lot of money, but you can hardly fault them for locking up one of the league's only above average centres. When you see the money that guys like Dalembert and Blount are making, it puts this into perspective a bit.

Size and skill combinations at the 5 spot are at a premium in the NBA right now. You have to overpay for quality size.

And Alexander is a freak. The size, speed, athleticism combo on his is absolutely ridiculous. His actual basketball skills have only really developed in the last year though, so to expect a lot more than nice highlights from him next year is optimistic.

Claudius 07-10-2008 10:04 AM

I see Alexander as a carbon copy of Tyrus Thomas to be honest. There's a lot to be excited about but will he be able to translate that success in athleticism into actual basketball skills to me is a big question mark. I'm not sold on him by any stretch of the imagination.

Adequate Swag 07-10-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 42501)
I see Alexander as a carbon copy of Tyrus Thomas to be honest. There's a lot to be excited about but will he be able to translate that success in athleticism into actual basketball skills to me is a big question mark. I'm not sold on him by any stretch of the imagination.

Alexander's offensive game is WAY WAY ahead of where Tyrus Thomas was at though.

I mean, Alexander was the primary offensive option on a very good team. They would give him the ball and let him go to work. He's shown he has skills he can build off, even if they aren't at the NBA level yet.

Alexander was a bonafied scorer in college this year. He'll have to adjust his game to the NBA, but it seems the skill set is there.

At no point in his NCAA career (one year, I know, but still) did Tyrus Thomas give any indication that he could be an offensive option. No jump shot, no handle, no ability to create. Alexander has shown all of those things on some level. Tyrus was basically a fast break finisher and a pogo stick on defense who benefitted from a deep tournament run and the fantastic play of Big Baby Davis that year.

I see what you're getting at, in that Alexander shot up draft boards out of nowhere. But he had an absolutely phenomenal NCAA tournament, and he's shown significantly more skill already than Tyrus Thomas has ever shown.

Major 07-10-2008 10:55 AM

Alexander is known a lot right now because of how he finished the season. He’s an athletic forward with good length, and has a fairly solid inside-outside game. He has good touch around the basket, knows how to finish, and can get to the line with ease. He has a very good post up game, passes well out of double-teams, and has good lateral quickness.

He’s still developing his perimeter skills though. He needs to work on his ball handling and passing ability and be consistent on his outside shots. Strengthening his frame wouldn’t hurt, either. Joe will be a great scoring threat in the years to come and will definitely be better than Tyrus Thomas will ever be.

Adequate Swag 07-10-2008 12:59 PM

Also, word is that Alexander is "obsessed with getting better"

Tyrus Thomas? I'm gonna say not so much

Gurk 07-10-2008 01:55 PM

yea i've heard that
this team is good but almost all the players are injury prone(redd, bogut, CV)

Major 07-10-2008 04:20 PM

Injury prone is a little too much.

Injury prone is when the players have 2-3 season where they don't even play half the games, or close to it anyway.

Redd had only one season where he made about 55 games or something like that. The rest of the seasons were fine.

CV had one season where made about 40 games, but it was his hamstring and was the only season where he missed more than 10 games.

Bogut only missed 15 games in 06-07 with his sprained foot

LX 07-10-2008 04:40 PM

I'll be interested to see how Jefferson makes out without Kidd.


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