Bogut available?

jeffb · 03-09-2012, 04:36 PM

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For the first time since the Milwaukee Bucks made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, they’re not saying no when teams ask if center Andrew Bogut is available via trade.

NBA front-office sources say that the Bucks, who have always swatted away trade inquiries for Bogut in the past, are now listening to pitches for the 7-foot Australian, who is said to be intrigued by the prospect of a fresh start elsewhere after more than two years of injury misfortune and teamwide tension under coach Scott Skiles over the past two disappointing seasons.

This development, though, comes with a crucial caveat:

Sources say that the Bucks, at least for the moment, are insisting that any team that trades for Bogut take on the disgruntled Stephen Jackson as part of the trade.

And that’s what is bound to keep Bogut in Milwaukee past Thursday’s 3 p.m. trade deadline more than his latest health setback, after he suffered a fractured left ankle against Houston on Jan. 25 after landing on the Rockets’ Samuel Dalembert in the lane.

Jackson’s feelings about Skiles and his desire to leave Brewtown are known worldwide, but finding a team willing to take on the outspoken 33-year-old when he’s guaranteed just over $10 million next season is problematic to say the least.

“The price (for Bogut) is high,” one interested suitor told ESPN.com this week.

Sources say that the Washington Wizards are among the teams to express the strongest interest in Bogut, which might be another indication that the Wiz are prepared to part with the enigmatic JaVale McGee, if not before the deadline than during the offseason.

It remains to be seen whether Bogut can return this season after his injury was recently deemed to be healing well and thus not requiring surgery. Bogut was hoping for an injury-free season to reclaim his status as one of the league’s top five centers after he was clearly still hampered in 2011-12 by the severe arm injuries inflicted by his nasty fall from the rim late in the 2009-10 season. The 27-year-old still managed to earn 2010 All-NBA Third Team honors even after the fall thanks to his emergence that season as a top-shelf defensive anchor with a blossoming offensive game.

Bucks' Bogut no longer untouchable - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN

Superjudge · 03-09-2012, 04:38 PM

He's a good player.

**INSIDER** · 03-09-2012, 04:50 PM

i like Bogut a lot... but the guy just always seems to get hurt.
he's a high risk/ high reward guy, that may be worth the risk.
its hilarious though that the Bucks are packaging SJax in any trade. good luck with that.

carp · 03-09-2012, 05:00 PM

The Wiz "might" be willing to part with the enigmatic Javale McGee.... lol.

Bogut is awesome, but it does seem injuries are beginning to mount. JV, AB and AB would be a spectacular frontcourt though... Raps should definitely inquire. If it comes down to the pick, Ed and Bayless.... do it! We can always add a guard in the offseason but that team would be pretty sick next year.

Snooch · 03-09-2012, 06:07 PM

would like to see jackson go the the clippers.

LOG · 03-09-2012, 06:21 PM

Bogut would be great for JV to learn from, but he always seems to be injured

DonMughal · 03-09-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Snooch

would like to see jackson go the the clippers.

Yeah, that would actually be legit. Maybe for Bledsoe? Or Williams.

rapsmannn · 03-10-2012, 03:47 AM

well bogut better call up phoenex and save a spot on the roster for him

Nites · 03-10-2012, 04:40 AM

He could only play 1/4 of the season

Someguy again · 03-10-2012, 02:17 PM

should utah trade al jefferson for him?

**Ball Don't Lie** · 03-10-2012, 02:23 PM

Utah would but I doubt MIL would. Jefferson still has the same problems he did 3 years ago that hold him back from being a top 5 PF. I dont think he'll ever figure it out.

I'm sure getting Bogut would be a huge step to convincing Wall to stay. A guy like Bogut would help start to change the culture in WAS.

If we didnt draft Val I'd love Bogut here. When healthy, hes probably the 2nd best defensive bigman in the nba in terms of protecting the rim.

carp · 03-10-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Someguy again

should utah trade al jefferson for him?

They should.... absolutely.

jeffb · 03-10-2012, 03:22 PM

Bogut/Jackson/filler + picks

For

Howard/Turkeypoo

Howard would love Milwaukee!

**Claudius** · 03-10-2012, 03:47 PM

I wonder if the Lakers would make a move for him, just for the sake of making a move.

Jackson would be able to play the 3 spot for them and Bogut would give them that defensive edge in the paint that I think they're missing.

You'd likely see Ebanks, Bynum and maybe Walton going the other way for the contracts to make sense.

Nites · 03-10-2012, 03:51 PM

^^I think it's a bad move taking Bynum out of LA. He is clearly the second most dominant center in the game at the moment.

**Claudius** · 03-10-2012, 04:22 PM

I would agree, but I think you would be selling high on him (as you can tell, I'm not high on him).

Dark Knight · 03-10-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius

I wonder if the Lakers would make a move for him, just for the sake of making a move.

Jackson would be able to play the 3 spot for them and Bogut would give them that defensive edge in the paint that I think they're missing.

You'd likely see Ebanks, Bynum and maybe Walton going the other way for the contracts to make sense.

LA needs to part ways with Artest. If they were to explore the possibility of trading Bynum, I think you'd have to package Artest with him the way the Magic are apparently shopping Dwight and Hedo together.

Bynum and World Peace for Bogut and Jackson.

Bill Haverchuck · 03-10-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius

I wonder if the Lakers would make a move for him, just for the sake of making a move.

Jackson would be able to play the 3 spot for them and Bogut would give them that defensive edge in the paint that I think they're missing.

You'd likely see Ebanks, Bynum and maybe Walton going the other way for the contracts to make sense.

From a longterm perspective, that could be serious trade rape. I'm with 007. In my opinion, you don't trade away a 24 year old all-star center just for the sake of making a move. You trade Bynum if you're getting Dwight, or a young stud wing/PG. I think the Lakers are going to want to make sure they have an important young piece in place when they have to make the transition from the Kobe era. The Lakers probably want to re-load, not rebuild, when Kobe is doen.

You look to trade Gasol before you ever consider Bynum, especially now that Bynum is putting a lot of the injury concerns to rest by having his body hold up against one of the most rigorous scheds in recent sports history. Bynum and Bogut are going in completely different directions. Bynum is getting stronger, while Bogut's body seems prone to constant injury. I love Bogut but, if I'm Mitch K, I don't do that trade.

Bill Haverchuck · 03-10-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius

I would agree, but I think you would be selling high on him (as you can tell, I'm not high on him).

I used to be really high on Bogut. Two years ago, I would have thought it sounded good. Bogut is so risky. I think Bogut is the type of gamble a team like Washington can afford to make, as someone else already mentioned.

The Lakers could make serious improvements without ever giving up Bynum. The perimeter players are poop. Use that trade exception and Dallas pick to get someone. If they did that, they'd already achieved the benefit they'd get from acquiring Jackson, yet they get to keep Bynum.

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03-09-2012, 04:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Superjudge is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17,593 Representing:	He's a good player.

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INSIDER BOOBS never too old. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: richmond hill Posts: 11,371 Representing:	i like Bogut a lot... but the guy just always seems to get hurt. he's a high risk/ high reward guy, that may be worth the risk. its hilarious though that the Bucks are packaging SJax in any trade. good luck with that.

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carp . Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 11,475 Representing:	The Wiz "might" be willing to part with the enigmatic Javale McGee.... lol. Bogut is awesome, but it does seem injuries are beginning to mount. JV, AB and AB would be a spectacular frontcourt though... Raps should definitely inquire. If it comes down to the pick, Ed and Bayless.... do it! We can always add a guard in the offseason but that team would be pretty sick next year.

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Snooch Kobe i's the b'y Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In the Paint Posts: 7,813 Representing:	would like to see jackson go the the clippers.

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LOG fueling the tank Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 6,473 Representing:	Bogut would be great for JV to learn from, but he always seems to be injured

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Ball Don't Lie praying Drummond doesnt haunt us forever. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 9,962 Representing:	Utah would but I doubt MIL would. Jefferson still has the same problems he did 3 years ago that hold him back from being a top 5 PF. I dont think he'll ever figure it out. I'm sure getting Bogut would be a huge step to convincing Wall to stay. A guy like Bogut would help start to change the culture in WAS. If we didnt draft Val I'd love Bogut here. When healthy, hes probably the 2nd best defensive bigman in the nba in terms of protecting the rim.

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