Jeremy

Metallikid

Wow, I can sympathize for his situation but as much as I like Chauncey I think he should retire rather than say things like that. He's complaining on personal grounds about being taken advantage of but that's the business of basketball and if you don't like it then just hang 'em up.

jeffb

He's loaded, and has a ring. Boohoo

ValanciunasFanboy

Wasn't there a fine for this? I'm quite sure someone was fined for trying to openly force a trade, I can't remember who.
This is part of CBA. You agreed to CBA. Teams have a right to pick you off the waiver. You don't try to kill teams' rights and then go around complaining about your rights. You don't like it - shut up or sign a shorter contract next time.

dfunkie1

i'm cool with chauncey saying these things. being a by-product of the amnesty isn't something that you agree to when you sign your contract, nor something chauncey in particularly agreed to when the new CBA was agreed to. he doesn't want to be an unfortunate consequence of the new CBA terms that allows teams to fix their bad spendings. he'll retire if it's not on his terms. he's not screwing anyone over.

Blaze

Well that's too bad for him, if everyone complains and gets there way then everyone is going to end up on 4 teams. This is actually getting ridiculous we should just start the count down to the next lock out.

dfunkie1

what's too bad for him? that'll he retire? the dude is 35 and served his time. he's not bound by anything to bother with the waiver process, his contract will be bought-out. i don't know why you're complaining about it.

box1992

cleavland should but him for 500,000 and let him chill out

dfunkie1

i was wrong about the contract. the highest bidder pays part of his contract and the knicks cover the rest.

ValanciunasFanboy

tell me, how is amnesty any different from a simplified trade? You get the same money. You get the same years. You play for another team.
So, if it looks like a trade, smells like a trade and tastes like a trade...
You knew that can happen when you signed the contract. Is the big issue that it's called "amnesty"?
The only difference is that with amnesty, there's a chance you may actually be allowed to choose your team. And that's a great thing for a player. But player can't DEMAND it. He's already in a better situation than a normal trade.

And anyway, you sign a contract that takes you past old CBA. You know that contract will be handled under different rules. You accepted that reality when you signed it.

Honestly, players need to get out of whatever trenches they've been. The war is over. Acting like dicks helps noone at this point. You took the deal. Go back to work.

ValanciunasFanboy

and btw, where did you get that? All he said is that the team that picks him will regret it. And that he'll be disruptive for that team. In what way does that sound like retirement?

jermyzy

If you read the full article, he goes on to say, “I just don’t deserve the treatment that I’ve continually gotten,” Billups said. “Historically, these things never happen to the supposed great players and good guys. They continually happen to me, and it gets old. Listen, I feel I’ve been blessed in the game, and I’ve been given back, but these things start to wear on you. But there’s not another guy in history who keeps dealing with this, getting thrown into these things to make the money right. I really believe it’s because people take my kindness and professionalism for weakness. They think I’ll be OK with this. I won’t be OK with this. I’ve saved my money. I may just retire if I don’t get my freedom here."

'trane

them's the breaks chauncey. you can always lie down is a big ol' pile of money if you get too sad. suck it up.

ValanciunasFanboy

Btw, what happens financially if he gets his wish? Lets say noone takes him in the "auction". And he signs with Miami for midlevel on a long term deal. He then gets the midlevel IN ADDITION to his 14 mil from the Knicks this year?
It would seem so judging by the language of the last version of CBA I've seen.

That's pretty good compared to being picked up by Raptors or whoever in the auction and only getting 14 mil combined and no long term deal.

It pays to be a dick if that's so.


Then he's throwing around a lot of very different crap.

Even the retirement part is plain wrong. It's basically the same as all those guys giving out a list of teams to be traded to. Yes, you'll have a right into free agency. It does not mean it's OK to blackmail teams with it. The same goes for retirement right.

And the "I'm a leader and leaders can be disruptive" part is simply moronic.

dfunkie1

it's not a trade. it's a one time waiver that the team needs to correct bad contracts they handed out. it's completely different. the waiver process was only implemented to lessen the cost of the team buying the player out. while i'm normally in the 'suck it up side' i don't agree with the waiver or the amnesty, especially when the contract that was signed had no indications of their contract being effected by it. trade the player or buy him out, the waiver process is a very bad idea. players are going to be picked up just so the next team won't be able to utilize the players talent.

Blaze

Because the entire point of the bidding process was so players don't get to go where they want. And now he's trying to side step that. If he doesn't like it he should retire.

dfunkie1

billups was contemplating retirement before the waiver process was just a rumour. he talked about retiring as soon as his name became a possibility for the amnesty.

i don't think he's saying that he's going to purposely sabotage the team. he's just saying that it'll be hard to inspire a leader to be positive when he's not happy.

carp

the players agreed to the CBA... Chauncey thinks he can threaten his way to the Heat.... I hope either Dan Gilbert places a bid on him and I'm sure several teams will. Retire if you don't like the CBA your peers voted to accept.

dfunkie1

the amnesty effects 30 players throughout the ten years of the CBA. does anyone believe the players were going to fight over the waiver/amnesty request that would open up addition money for free agents and player extensions. billups is getting screwed by it and he knows it.

carp

Billups isn't getting screwed. He's getting paid his full salary by a team that doesn't want him as much as they did Chandler.