Billups warns teams not to take him on waiver
Old 12-10-2011, 06:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As Chauncey Billups prepares to have his name entered into the NBAís amnesty waiver wire, he has a message for teams considering putting in a bid to secure him for the rest of the season: Youíll regret it.

He wants the freedom of free agency to choose a contender, Billups says. As one of the gameís great leaders, and gentlemen, Billups warns that player will be a distant memory should a team claim him off the amnesty waiver wire.

ďIí m tired of being the good guy,Ē Billups told Yahoo! Sports by phone on Saturday afternoon. ďIím tired of being viewed as the guy. After a while, you just kind of get taken advantage of in these situations. Iíve been known as a leader, and I am a leader, but a leader can be as disruptive as he can be productive, especially when you carry a strong voice and people rally around you. This is about me now. This is about me, and teams should know that right now.Ē
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, I can sympathize for his situation but as much as I like Chauncey I think he should retire rather than say things like that. He's complaining on personal grounds about being taken advantage of but that's the business of basketball and if you don't like it then just hang 'em up.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wasn't there a fine for this? I'm quite sure someone was fined for trying to openly force a trade, I can't remember who.
This is part of CBA. You agreed to CBA. Teams have a right to pick you off the waiver. You don't try to kill teams' rights and then go around complaining about your rights. You don't like it - shut up or sign a shorter contract next time.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i'm cool with chauncey saying these things. being a by-product of the amnesty isn't something that you agree to when you sign your contract, nor something chauncey in particularly agreed to when the new CBA was agreed to. he doesn't want to be an unfortunate consequence of the new CBA terms that allows teams to fix their bad spendings. he'll retire if it's not on his terms. he's not screwing anyone over.
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i'm cool with chauncey saying these things. being a by-product of the amnesty isn't something that you agree to when you sign your contract, nor something chauncey in particularly agreed to when the new CBA was agreed to. he doesn't want to be an unfortunate consequence of the new CBA terms that allows teams to fix their bad spendings. he'll retire if it's not on his terms. he's not screwing anyone over.
Well that's too bad for him, if everyone complains and gets there way then everyone is going to end up on 4 teams. This is actually getting ridiculous we should just start the count down to the next lock out.
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what's too bad for him? that'll he retire? the dude is 35 and served his time. he's not bound by anything to bother with the waiver process, his contract will be bought-out. i don't know why you're complaining about it.
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i was wrong about the contract. the highest bidder pays part of his contract and the knicks cover the rest.
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i'm cool with chauncey saying these things. being a by-product of the amnesty isn't something that you agree to when you sign your contract, nor something chauncey in particularly agreed to when the new CBA was agreed to. he doesn't want to be an unfortunate consequence of the new CBA terms that allows teams to fix their bad spendings. he'll retire if it's not on his terms. he's not screwing anyone over.
tell me, how is amnesty any different from a simplified trade? You get the same money. You get the same years. You play for another team.
So, if it looks like a trade, smells like a trade and tastes like a trade...
You knew that can happen when you signed the contract. Is the big issue that it's called "amnesty"?
The only difference is that with amnesty, there's a chance you may actually be allowed to choose your team. And that's a great thing for a player. But player can't DEMAND it. He's already in a better situation than a normal trade.

And anyway, you sign a contract that takes you past old CBA. You know that contract will be handled under different rules. You accepted that reality when you signed it.

Honestly, players need to get out of whatever trenches they've been. The war is over. Acting like dicks helps noone at this point. You took the deal. Go back to work.
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he'll retire if it's not on his terms. he's not screwing anyone over.
and btw, where did you get that? All he said is that the team that picks him will regret it. And that he'll be disruptive for that team. In what way does that sound like retirement?
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and btw, where did you get that? All he said is that the team that picks him will regret it. And that he'll be disruptive for that team. In what way does that sound like retirement?
If you read the full article, he goes on to say, ďI just donít deserve the treatment that Iíve continually gotten,Ē Billups said. ďHistorically, these things never happen to the supposed great players and good guys. They continually happen to me, and it gets old. Listen, I feel Iíve been blessed in the game, and Iíve been given back, but these things start to wear on you. But thereís not another guy in history who keeps dealing with this, getting thrown into these things to make the money right. I really believe itís because people take my kindness and professionalism for weakness. They think Iíll be OK with this. I wonít be OK with this. Iíve saved my money. I may just retire if I donít get my freedom here."
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them's the breaks chauncey. you can always lie down is a big ol' pile of money if you get too sad. suck it up.
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Btw, what happens financially if he gets his wish? Lets say noone takes him in the "auction". And he signs with Miami for midlevel on a long term deal. He then gets the midlevel IN ADDITION to his 14 mil from the Knicks this year?
It would seem so judging by the language of the last version of CBA I've seen.

That's pretty good compared to being picked up by Raptors or whoever in the auction and only getting 14 mil combined and no long term deal.

It pays to be a dick if that's so.


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If you read the full article, he goes on to say, “I just don’t deserve the treatment that I’ve continually gotten,” Billups said. “Historically, these things never happen to the supposed great players and good guys. They continually happen to me, and it gets old. Listen, I feel I’ve been blessed in the game, and I’ve been given back, but these things start to wear on you. But there’s not another guy in history who keeps dealing with this, getting thrown into these things to make the money right. I really believe it’s because people take my kindness and professionalism for weakness. They think I’ll be OK with this. I won’t be OK with this. I’ve saved my money. I may just retire if I don’t get my freedom here."
Then he's throwing around a lot of very different crap.

Even the retirement part is plain wrong. It's basically the same as all those guys giving out a list of teams to be traded to. Yes, you'll have a right into free agency. It does not mean it's OK to blackmail teams with it. The same goes for retirement right.

And the "I'm a leader and leaders can be disruptive" part is simply moronic.
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tell me, how is amnesty any different from a simplified trade? You get the same money. You get the same years. You play for another team.
it's not a trade. it's a one time waiver that the team needs to correct bad contracts they handed out. it's completely different. the waiver process was only implemented to lessen the cost of the team buying the player out. while i'm normally in the 'suck it up side' i don't agree with the waiver or the amnesty, especially when the contract that was signed had no indications of their contract being effected by it. trade the player or buy him out, the waiver process is a very bad idea. players are going to be picked up just so the next team won't be able to utilize the players talent.
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what's too bad for him? that'll he retire? the dude is 35 and served his time. he's not bound by anything to bother with the waiver process, his contract will be bought-out. i don't know why you're complaining about it.
Because the entire point of the bidding process was so players don't get to go where they want. And now he's trying to side step that. If he doesn't like it he should retire.
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Even the retirement part is plain wrong. It's basically the same as all those guys giving out a list of teams to be traded to. Yes, you'll have a right into free agency. It does not mean it's OK to blackmail teams with it. The same goes for retirement right.

And the "I'm a leader and leaders can be disruptive" part is simply moronic.
billups was contemplating retirement before the waiver process was just a rumour. he talked about retiring as soon as his name became a possibility for the amnesty.

i don't think he's saying that he's going to purposely sabotage the team. he's just saying that it'll be hard to inspire a leader to be positive when he's not happy.
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the players agreed to the CBA... Chauncey thinks he can threaten his way to the Heat.... I hope either Dan Gilbert places a bid on him and I'm sure several teams will. Retire if you don't like the CBA your peers voted to accept.
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the amnesty effects 30 players throughout the ten years of the CBA. does anyone believe the players were going to fight over the waiver/amnesty request that would open up addition money for free agents and player extensions. billups is getting screwed by it and he knows it.
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Billups isn't getting screwed. He's getting paid his full salary by a team that doesn't want him as much as they did Chandler.
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