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Old 12-27-2012, 01:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Avery Johnson Named Eastern Conference Coach of the Month

Brooklyn, NY – The NBA announced today that Brooklyn Nets Head Coach Avery Johnson has been named the Eastern Conference Coach of the Month for October and November.

Johnson led the Nets to a franchise-best 11 wins in the month of November and an 11-4 record overall, setting the mark for the best start in Nets franchise history. Brooklyn finished the month 7-1 at home and tied for the Atlantic Division lead while going 8-2 against 2011-12 playoff teams. In November, Brooklyn ranked second in the NBA in team scoring defense, holding opponents to 90.4 points per game and recorded their largest road win (107-68) in franchise history on Nov. 9 against the Orlando Magic.

The New Orleans native is in his third season as head coach of the Nets after being named to the position on June 15, 2010.
In just three weeks, Johnson somehow forgot how to coach!
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I like him, they should bring him here immediately as an assistant
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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what did Deron have to do with it? did the 2 have a beef? i never heard any of that... interesting.
they did lose like 7 in a row didnt they? and they're under .500, so i guess this isnt that much of a shock considering they were supposed to be contenders, or at least playoff calibre.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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what did Deron have to do with it? did the 2 have a beef? i never heard any of that... interesting.
they did lose like 7 in a row didnt they? and they're under .500, so i guess this isnt that much of a shock considering they were supposed to be contenders, or at least playoff calibre.
A week ago when addressing " HIS " poor play of late,instead of being accountable,he started publically blaming Avery's system and even went as far as saying he misses Jerry's Sloan(yea the same other coach he got fired) style and saying that Sloan's system was better,basically.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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what does that say about Daron Williams, Coach sloan leaves Jazz after so many years, now Avery Fired.. probably a difficult player to coach, I don't think he that nice anymore, after watching him for a bit.. he takes bad shots.. a little wild
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I was injured the first year. I really had injuries I was dealing with the whole time. And didn’t have the talent around me that I did there. And that system [in Utah] was a great system for my style of play. I’m a system player. I loved Coach [Jerry] Sloan’s system. I loved the offense there. We could’ve been a really good team, we just weren’t that good defensively as a group.’

It’s just more 1-on-1 isos. I grew up ... in high school, my coach wasn’t one of those guys that just let us just throw out the balls and play. We were a system team. We had a staple of plays that we relied on for good execution.

In college [at Illinois], we ran a motion offense, a lot of cutting, a lot passing, a lot of screening and making the extra passes. I’m used to just movement. So I’m still trying to adjust. It’s been an adjustment for me. But it’s coming along.’
A bit subliminal but ,you can put two and two together when Avery Johnson gets fired a week and a half later. They're only .500 but that's not bad because thruthfully they're not all that great..or at least i didn't think so to begin with.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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NO hate to Deron Wiliimas but he's widely considered to be a top 5 Point Guard,which makes him elite,so shouldn't an elite PG,who's the highest paid" at his position in the NBA be able to adapt to and furthermore,dictate any type of system?
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if jose was running that team they would probably be better
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:25 PM   #15 (permalink)
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NO hate to Deron Wiliimas but he's widely considered to be a top 5 Point Guard,which makes him elite,so shouldn't an elite PG,who's the highest paid" at his position in the NBA be able to adapt to and furthermore,dictate any type of system?
That's the key question to me. Why hasn't he been able to dictate the system?
Is Avery Johnson that stubborn? Considering how stubborn some coaches are (D'Antoni!), I wouldn't be surprised.
Or was D-Will too passive in the video room and practice?

I don't blame D-Will for failing in this system. ANY point guard, CP3, Nash, Westbrook, Rose, Rondo, any of them wouldn't be impressive in that system. It was ridiculous lately. No spacing whatsoever and slow as a snail. Everyone just bumping each other and trying to find a good spot to post up. It's like the 60s basketball, just with a shot clock.
There's nothing a PG can do in that system, except tear it apart and dictate a new one.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Much like the Lakers, why wait until the end of the season to fire your coach when you know its not working out now?

This is a good move by the Nets. Johnson isnt a good coach, and lives off his Finals run with the Mavs reputation wise. Hes like the coaching version of BC. His offensive system is a joke with isolations every single play(something the Mavs were good at with Dirk/Stackhouse/Howard back then, and also Terry when teams switched on the screens) with average to below average ISO players, and not playing to his strengths with DWill/Lopez on screen roll, something both players are very good at, and the one thing both probably do best offensively. Theres no way a team with DWill, JJ, G Wallace and Lopez, with Watson, Brooks, and Blatche off the bench should be so bad offensively so much of the time.

And they started off pretty good on defence, but I think their offensive problems ultimately helped cause their defensive problems with turnovers, bad shots at the end of the shot clock, and players dont play as hard on defence when theyre not in an offensive rhythm.

That and I'm sure listening to Averys nails to the chalkboard voice got to the players having to listen to him daily.

The right move now is to bring in SVG, and to play the same sort of system as they did in ORL. Screen roll with DWill/Brook at the top, and movement off the ball ultimately leading to a wide open 3, or Brook getting the pass on the roll for an easy shot. The Nets need to play quicker and utilize their best players more.
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I hear what "Thriller" and "Woodchuck" are saying but again,they're only 14-14. It's not like they're 5,10 games below .500. When they were 11-4 and near the top of the NBA rankings,nobody was complaining about the system or questioning whether or not Avery Johnson was a good coach. This is about Joe Johnson and Deron Williams,two of the highest paid players in the league and definitely at their position,not playing to their capabilities and expectations. Injuries may have some to do with it,also the fact that it's a newly assembled roster trying to get used to one another.
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That and I'm sure listening to Averys nails to the chalkboard voice got to the players having to listen to him daily.
This. It's actually so horrible lol
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Johnson is a motivator. If you need a coach to give inspirational speeches, he's your man. Unfortunately that's only good in the locker room and maybe during extended time-outs. He'd make a great assistant like he was with the mavs before the job fell onto his lap.
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I hear what "Thriller" and "Woodchuck" are saying but again,they're only 14-14. It's not like they're 5,10 games below .500. When they were 11-4 and near the top of the NBA rankings,nobody was complaining about the system or questioning whether or not Avery Johnson was a good coach. This is about Joe Johnson and Deron Williams,two of the highest paid players in the league and definitely at their position,not playing to their capabilities and expectations. Injuries may have some to do with it,also the fact that it's a newly assembled roster trying to get used to one another.
At the start of the season, outside of their win against LAC/NY, and arguably the BOS wins(though thats pushing it since BOS looks average so far this year), they didnt have any other quality wins, and lost to all of the good teams on their sched. And again, their offensive system was still bad back then.

The main thing is, even though theyre 14-14, are they going to improve with Avery as their head coach? Are they going to be playing at a top 4 seed level, which is expected of them? I dont think so. They made the right move doing this earlier rather than later when the team may not be fixable. But they need to bring in a good coach immediately to make this work, they cant have Carleismo coaching this team for more than 2 weeks.

Its a very simple formula for them to start playing better. Pick and roll with DWill/Brook and JJ/Brook more often, and stop playing DWill off of the ball so much. Those three should be putting up 18+ every game together, and they need a coach to utilize their strengths and up their usage rates in spots on the floor where theyre comfortable and going to be producing. And despite his defensive deficiencies, Brooks needs to be playing more as they need his scoring off of the bench. If they can get him in to a good rhythm playing 20-25 minutes and scoring well off the bench, I think the defence will come too with more experience as well.
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