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Old 01-04-2011, 10:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1. Magic
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5. Kobe
6. Chamberlain
7. Shaq
8. Mikan
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10. Worthy



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Old 01-04-2011, 11:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Not so sold on James Worthy. Great player but top 10 all times i don't know
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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note that list isn't in order. i've only ever watched kobe and shaq play live so i can't make an informed decision on who should be where. magic's the number one guy i wish i had seen play, above MJ and anyone else even.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think you may have to consider Odom and/or Gasol. I am not completely sold on the idea but they have won two titles.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:47 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Not so sold on James Worthy. Great player but top 10 all times i don't know
totally agree. he had big games in big moments, thus the nickname, but many poor games in big moments as well. and he would never have been as good without magic.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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In fact in the final game with NC the last (and winning) shot was taken by MJ who at that time wasn't his airness yet.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Pau should be on that list if it's the most SKILLED Lakers ever.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Pau should be on that list if it's the most SKILLED Lakers ever.
I was thinking the same, maybe they need some more years to be elegible
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
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totally agree. he had big games in big moments, thus the nickname, but many poor games in big moments as well. and he would never have been as good without magic.
He would've never good without Magic? That's a little harsh, no?

He was a good player in his own right. He was already an outstanding collegiate player and the dude had a great post game, was an adept finisher who could score with either hand, was a good rebounder and a decent passer. He was also the 88 Finals MVP, not Magic or Kareem. He must've did something right.

Must be Celtics fans from back then.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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He would've never good without Magic? That's a little harsh, no?

He was a good player in his own right. He was already an outstanding collegiate player and the dude had a great post game, was an adept finisher who could score with either hand, was a good rebounder and a decent passer. He was also the 88 Finals MVP, not Magic or Kareem. He must've did something right.

Must be Celtics fans from back then.
not to mention he was a Laker his entire NBA career, you cant discount that.
if anyone thinks Pau or Odom should be there ahead of Worthy they are mad.
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Michael Cooper, Byron Scott, Norm Nixon and Jamal Wilkes are all ahead of Odom and Pau too.
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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He would've never good without Magic? That's a little harsh, no?

He was a good player in his own right. He was already an outstanding collegiate player and the dude had a great post game, was an adept finisher who could score with either hand, was a good rebounder and a decent passer. He was also the 88 Finals MVP, not Magic or Kareem. He must've did something right.

Must be Celtics fans from back then.
def. was a celtics fan. but i never said he wasn't good, just wouldn't have been as good w/o magic. and that '88 finals skewed everyone's overall perception of him.
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def. was a celtics fan. but i never said he wasn't good, just wouldn't have been as good w/o magic. and that '88 finals skewed everyone's overall perception of him.
Sure, Magic made people better, but Worthy always stepped up his play in the playoffs, it wasn't exclusive to just that year.
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worthy was a guy who didn't need lots of touches, played a great team game and thrived because kareem and magic took all the pressure off of him. swap teams with 'nique (they were drafted one after the other) and no one would have this impression of worthy.
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worthy was a guy who didn't need lots of touches, played a great team game and thrived because kareem and magic took all the pressure off of him. swap teams with 'nique (they were drafted one after the other) and no one would have this impression of worthy.
Top ten or not on the fastbreak driven by Magic he was sick.
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
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worthy was a guy who didn't need lots of touches, played a great team game and thrived because kareem and magic took all the pressure off of him. swap teams with 'nique (they were drafted one after the other) and no one would have this impression of worthy.
I think you're undervaluing what he could do out on the court - his post game and first step had nothing to do with Magic. The Lakers already had an established 20 PPG, All-Star wing in Jamal Wilkes and he played so well he made him redundant. And Kareem was already mid-30's by the time Worthy joined the Lakers and while still a very good player was hardly the force he had once been. And he did get a lot of touches. I guess you're overlooking the fact that he was usually the first option in the half court - not Kareem.

And using your logic, the same then could be said for any player that plays alongside a great. What would McHale, DJ and Ainge have been without Bird? He even gave Walton a chance to win another championship.
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This list is all hype. Where's the heart?! The Mad Dogs, the Adam Morrisons, the Slava Medvedenkos???
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:21 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I think you're undervaluing what he could do out on the court - his post game and first step had nothing to do with Magic. The Lakers already had an established 20 PPG, All-Star wing in Jamal Wilkes and he played so well he made him redundant. And Kareem was already mid-30's by the time Worthy joined the Lakers and while still a very good player was hardly the force he had once been. And he did get a lot of touches. I guess you're overlooking the fact that he was the first option in the half court - not Kareem.

And using your logic, the same then could be said for any player that plays alongside a great. What would McHale, DJ and Ainge have been without Bird? He even gave Walton a chance to win another championship.
i would argue that magic and kareem created the space that allowed him to operate in the post and to take that first step in a 1 on 1 situation, rather than against the pressure he would have faced if they weren't there. and yes, that logic is absolutely sound. he wouldn't have been as good without those guys, and neither would mchale or ainge. none of this means he was a bad player. my point is that the '88 finals blew him up to a huge stature and i don't think he was as good as people thought. there was no way he could have led a team to the finals as the main guy. he just wasn't good enough for that. i'm not saying he was a bad player. he was good, and he was a perfect fit for that team, but i still think he is overrated as an individual talent. and i still think that he was big game james because of magic and because of the way that the nba game slows down to half court sets in the playoffs. that's why his numbers went up.
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