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Old 07-03-2013, 08:52 PM   #481 (permalink)
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Pekovic and Bynum too. I suppose their agents are waiting for the Dwight situation to sort itself out. The Mavs are bound to sign someone, likely the Rockets too. These destinations are sexy enough for players to wait a couple days.
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We haven't heard much about JR Smith. I wonder if anybody is even pursuing him, or if New York will just re-sign him. The Knicks are going to have a huge tax bill when they complete their roster.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:57 PM   #483 (permalink)
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Pekovic and Bynum too. I suppose their agents are waiting for the Dwight situation to sort itself out. The Mavs are bound to sign someone, likely the Rockets too. These destinations are sexy enough for players to wait a couple days.
I think Splitter getting 9M per on avg has also shifted the big man market a bit imho.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:16 PM   #485 (permalink)
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Marc Stein: Kyle Korver is staying with Atlanta on four-year deal worth estimated $24 million, sources tell ESPN Twitter @ESPNSteinLine

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Korver just agreed to a 4 year extension.

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Old 07-03-2013, 11:46 PM   #487 (permalink)
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Al Jefferson is waiting to see what happens with Dwight Howard and the Dallas Mavericks before committing to the Charlotte Bobcats.

Jefferson is searching for a four-year deal starting at approximately $15 million per season.

Jefferson has spent the past day and half meeting with the Bobcats.

Jefferson believes that the Mavericks could make an offer if Howard chooses to sign elsewhere.
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:45 AM   #488 (permalink)
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The Kings will not match the four-year, $44 million offer sheet that Tyreke Evans has agreed to sign with the New Orleans Pelicans. According to sources close to the situation, the new Kings management group instead is hoping to close Thursday on a sign-and-trade agreement involving Pelicans point guard Greivis Vasquez and backup center Robin Lopez.

No deals can be finalized until July 10.

Because Evans, the 2009-10 Rookie of the Year, is a restricted free agent, the Kings have the right to match any offer he receives in the open market. However, team officials reportedly believe the offer is excessive and would damage the team's long-term salary cap flexibility. They pulled their four-year, $52 million offer to free agent Andre Iguodala Tuesday when the Denver Nuggets swingman refused to make a firm commitment.

Evans' future with the Kings became less certain when the club selected Kansas shooting guard Ben McLemore last Thursday in the NBA Draft. Evans, who was shifted from point guard to small forward, and most recently, shooting guard, averaged 15.2 points, 4.4 rebounds and 3.5 assists last season.
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Sacramento will be tanking
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:59 AM   #490 (permalink)
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That could be true but I like that move either way. They lose some upside with Tyreke but he likely wouldn't achieve it in Sacramento anyway.

They had to choose between having the current roster and winning 30-40 games for the next two years, or gaining flexibility. And if that SnT happens, they will actually gain flexibility AND a better fit in Vasquez.

Vasquez / I.Thomas
Marcus Thornton / McLemore / Fredette
??? John Salmons?
Cousins / Patrick Patterson / Jason Thompson
Robin Lopez / Chuck Hayes

They need to clean it up a little regardless if they want to tank or not. Get rid of Thornton probably, add a SF. Maybe trade Lopez for a PF with starter's talent. Lopez had a great year, he should have some value.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:09 AM   #491 (permalink)
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Sacramento has to start to try winning at some point! Cousins is going to go bonkers with all the losing.

They have a pretty clean cap situation, without any bloated contracts beyond the 14-15 season. They could have afforded to keep Tyreke. It wouldn't have hurt their flexibility very much, unless they plan on being cheap bastards for the next few years, like the old ownership.

Anyway, at least by getting Vazquez and Lopez they are salvaging a couple of decent assets from the situation. The team option on Lopez has to be picked up by July 5th (tomorrow) so this deal should be agreed upon by tonight, if it is going to happen. On the Pelicans end, they really only give up Vazquez. If they didn't do the S&T, and just signed Reke with cap space, they would have had to decline the team option on Lopez to create the space. They wouldn't have had him. And since other teams knew they had to get rid of him, nobody was going to give them a 1st rounder. I think at best they could've got a 2nd rounder. So, yeah, the Pelicans basically only lose Vazquez, I would guess.

The deal should also leave the Pelicans with a couple million of leftover cap space to find a new back-up PG.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:15 AM   #492 (permalink)
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Sacramento has really been missing a solid PG in recent years. If they can sign a solid wing to replace Evans, they'll be better.
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I was looking over Vasquez's profile because I wanted to check some of his shooting #s. I stumbled across something else I didn't realize. TIL that Vasquez was 3rd in the league in assists per game, and he led the league in total assists because he played more games than Rondo and Paul. I knew he was top 10 in APG, but 3rd!?

Now I'm starting to question the Pelicans asset management. Hmm...I can't believe I'm starting to agree with Jeff about the upheaval...

If everything goes down the way it's been reported, the Pelicans basically traded...

Nerlens Noel, Vasquez, Robin Lopez, and a 2014 first rounder (top 5 protected) and used$12+ million in cap space ($9 mill for Jrue alone) in order to acquire Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans.

It might have been better to keep Noel and the 2014 pick, and then package one of those assets with Lopez (or send it without Lopez) to get Tyreke.

Then by keeping Vasquez as the starter, the Pelicans have the other asset they didn't use (one of Noel or 2014 pick) and extra cap space to add a player. And maybe they even have Lopez. The advantage of having that other asset (one of Noel or 2014 pick) is that it might help them move Eric Gordon for a healthier/more durable SG. And the extra cap space is obviously an asset because there are some free agents left to go after.

I'm not sure PG was the place for the Pelicans to make a move. Tyreke is a good addition since he can operate as a 1,2 or 3 coming off the bench as a super sixth man. But I'm thinking some of these assets might have been better used to get a new starting SG and another rotation big (if Lopez still goes) or bench piece.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:07 AM   #494 (permalink)
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I've always liked Vasquez. I don't really get it. It could turn out well for both teams I suppose.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:27 AM   #495 (permalink)
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I've always liked Vasquez. I don't really get it. It could turn out well for both teams I suppose.
Yeah, technically, that deal could be fair. I'm really questioning the move for Jrue, because that's what sets off the (arguably) poor use of the Pelicans' assets. I like the addition of Tyreke.
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THIS JUST IN: J.R. Smith re-signs with the Knicks for $24.5 million over four years.
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THIS JUST IN: J.R. Smith re-signs with the Knicks for $24.5 million over four years.
I predict he won't finish that contract in NY
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:04 PM   #498 (permalink)
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I didn't like that Holiday trade for the Pelicans. It looks like "the owner told us to make the playoffs and sell tickets" move.

Holiday is a good player, but he didn't really have an All Star caliber year overall. He's a young borderline All Star with some upside. He's not better than Ty Lawson or Mike Conley right now. I don't think that's the type of player where you give Noel + pass on one of those 2014 guys. They had a good chance to get one of the Wiggins, Randle etc if they stayed patient.

Also TBH, if the 76ers didn't get that offer for Holiday, I'm not sure they'd look to tank. They'd have several good young pieces, a lot of flexibility, a lotto pick. With some right free agent signings and some patience, they could build a good 50 wins team. But the offer was too attractive.

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As for Vasquez/Lopez, I don't mind this current sign and trade. I think giving Tyreke that contract is very risky, I think he gets overpaid, but if they feel they can keep developing him, fair enough.

If Tyreke keeps improving, he could easily be much more valuable than Vasquez + Lopez.

Vasquez and Lopez are ok but they are borderline starters. Vasquez is a major liability on defense and I think that won't change. He's not a scorer. And his shooting is just passable.
Lopez doesn't get defensive boards, and I think his offensive improvement has been a bit fluky.
They are expendable.
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Pablo Prigioni has agreed to return to the New York Knicks.

Prigioni was a 35-year-old NBA rookie last season after a long career in Spain.
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I didn't like that Holiday trade for the Pelicans. It looks like "the owner told us to make the playoffs and sell tickets" move.

Holiday is a good player, but he didn't really have an All Star caliber year overall. He's a young borderline All Star with some upside. He's not better than Ty Lawson or Mike Conley right now. I don't think that's the type of player where you give Noel + pass on one of those 2014 guys. They had a good chance to get one of the Wiggins, Randle etc if they stayed patient.
Holiday is exactly the kind of player a team should be looking to acquire if they're trading a high draft pick. A young player who is improving every season, and had an allstar caliber season last year. The likelyhood that Noel becomes as good of a player as Jrue is small, and the 2014 pick is top 5 protected, and it seems NOH is building to win next year. It's very likely that the Hornets got the better end of this deal now and in the future. A lot has to go right for PHI to win that trade.
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Hey, the Knicks finally did something right this offseason!
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