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Old 07-03-2013, 12:11 AM   #441 (permalink)
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Sacramento is offering free agent Andre Iguodala a four year, approximately $56 million contract, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Tony Allen Re-signing
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:13 AM   #442 (permalink)
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I just heard from a well informed source that The #Nuggets 1st offer to Iguodala was 5yrs $63 Million...
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why is 12.5M too much? He's definitely worth that. People need to stop looking at a couple offensive categories as the justification for salary.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:17 AM   #444 (permalink)
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why is 12.5M too much? He's definitely worth that. People need to stop looking at a couple offensive categories as the justification for salary.
Exactly. Demar makes 9 and Bargs makes 11, this is def worth it.
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why is 12.5M too much? He's definitely worth that. People need to stop looking at a couple offensive categories as the justification for salary.
5 years..
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:19 AM   #446 (permalink)
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why is 12.5M too much? He's definitely worth that. People need to stop looking at a couple offensive categories as the justification for salary.
He's almost 30....a 5yr deal? He'll be deemed overpaid in a couple years imo.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:21 AM   #447 (permalink)
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Nice.....that's a bargain imo.

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Tony Allen has agreed to a four-year, $20 million contract extension with Memphis, league source tells Y! Sports.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:26 AM   #448 (permalink)
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Nice.....that's a bargain imo.

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It's a three-year, $3 million deal for Jon Leuer with Grizzlies
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:32 AM   #450 (permalink)
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Re: Allen.

I'd say that's pretty fair market value.

He's almost 32, a defensive specialist and that's a 2 million dollar per year raise.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:36 AM   #451 (permalink)
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The Kings are reportedly considering giving Andre Iguodala a max offer, which would also mean they likely wouldn't match the offer Tyreke Evans got from the Pelicans, according to ESPN's Raj Sharan.
It's starting to feel like Evans will play for the Pelicans this season, while the Kings might be in the lead to acquire Iguodala, who would fill a small forward spot that has long been a problem in Sacramento. Stay tuned.
Source: Raj Sharan on Twitter Jul 2 - 8:29 PM
NBA | Josh Smith, Dwight Howard together in HOU? - Rotoworld.com ... r-iguodala


Really they're this desperate and we couldn't get their pick for Rudy?
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:38 AM   #452 (permalink)
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The amount of moves this year seems higher than usual.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:52 AM   #453 (permalink)
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Re: Allen.

I'd say that's pretty fair market value.

He's almost 32, he's crazy, a defensive specialist and that's a 2 million dollar per year raise.
Bruce Bowen never made more than $4.1MM so i suppose $5MM is good for Allen. I'm not sure what OKC's cap situation is, but I feel like they could really use some crazy on their roster.
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Sacramento is offering free agent Andre Iguodala a four year, approximately $56 million contract, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Tony Allen Re-signing
I keep hearing $12.5 million for Iggy, but did you guys miss the above quote or something? $14 million per season for Iggy? People are saying $12.5 million is worth it for Iggy (I disagree), but $14 is just absurd. I mean, I like Iggy, but that is just way overpaying. Some teams are just crazy.
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Iggy is worth 4 years 48 million. If the 5th year is a team option then it's not so bad if it's 5 years 63 million. He is worth 12 million per season, but with him being 30, 5 years is too much IMO.

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What's Minny thinking overpaying for Budinger and now signing Kevin Martin? Those are some TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE moves. I mean I like Budinger at least, but not for that price. And they lost (will lose) AK47. I don't think Kevin Love is too happy and I suspect he will ask for a trade soon enough.
I dont think you realize how bad MINs 3 point shooting was this season. Plus you add on the fact that Martin had his best years under Adelman and his offence in SAC, with him essentially being the perfect running mate with Rubio, it's a fantastic signing.

In terms of Budinger, as long as he isn't starting, the deal is ok. He's got a very quick release and is one of the better open spot up shooters in the NBA, and hes underrated athletically. He's a very solid bench piece.

But you're right in that they need to fill in their starting SF spot with a defensive player who's capable of starting. If they cant keep AK(which is looking very likely now), they should be going after Henderson, or Matt Barnes. I dont see another FA on the free agent list they can possibly afford who is still capable of starting and giving MIN what they need.
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No doubt Martin will provide some offensive spark to that team. But defensively he's a joke. I just don't think he's the right piece considering they don't have great defenders already and will lose one of their best, if not best, defensive player in AK47. I do like Budinger as a I mentioned, but I feel like the price is just a tad bit high, especially considering he'll likely be a bench player who is coming off a major knee injury. I guess they're doing their best to try and build a solid team and keep Love happy, but I don't think it'll work.
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No doubt Martin will provide some offensive spark to that team. But defensively he's a joke. I just don't think he's the right piece considering they don't have great defenders already and will lose one of their best, if not best, defensive player in AK47. I do like Budinger as a I mentioned, but I feel like the price is just a tad bit high, especially considering he'll likely be a bench player who is coming off a major knee injury. I guess they're doing their best to try and build a solid team and keep Love happy, but I don't think it'll work.
Martin may be bad defensively, but he's going to be ridiculously efficient on offence, and make the Rubio pick and roll game one of the hardest plays to stop in the NBA next year. If you look at the players out there, who's a better fit that's better on defence that MIN could have picked up? JJ Reddick? Sure, by a bit, but he's not that much better of a 1 on 1 defensive player than Martin(though he is better help wise). OJ Mayo is too inconsistent. Tony Allen wouldnt have fit on offence. I wouldnt like the move as much without Adelman there, but Martin is a different player in a motion offence. He will likely average 18+ PPG next year on ridiculous efficiency, and as long as MIN gets a good defensive SF, Martins defence won't be as big of a factor as you think right now.

Chase is underrated. He may have only been worth 3 years 12 million, but he's still young, and that's obviously not that much of a difference in comparison to what he got(15 mil). He knows his role, and he also looks great in Adelmans offence.

Both are great fits IMO, but MINs success will come down to Pek staying, and them picking up a legit defensive SF.
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I keep hearing $12.5 million for Iggy, but did you guys miss the above quote or something? $14 million per season for Iggy? People are saying $12.5 million is worth it for Iggy (I disagree), but $14 is just absurd. I mean, I like Iggy, but that is just way overpaying. Some teams are just crazy.
My thoughts about those offers:

1 - Although an obvious overpayment, the Kings offer is less risky since it's only 4 years. Also, it's somewhat understandable because the Kings need to do something to get more wins. Cousins is a hot-head, and that franchise needs fewer tantrums over losing and more wins before next summer when they have to decide whether to re-sign or trade him. It would suck to trade Cousins, so I think this is their attmept to really improve next year.

Note that the Kings have a clean cap situation during the final two years of Iggy's deal, and new ownership. This won't kill them financially or basketball wise, at least as far as we can see into the future (we never know for sure what hypothetical trades the used up cap space could spoil). They only have one guaranteed contract in '15-16. So as long as they're responsible with other signings, the Kings are good to go.

Knowing all of that, consider their situation. If they don't go after Iggy, what should the Kings do with their cap space in order to get better immediately? A trade would require them to send out assets, so that is costly in a different way. Who should they sign? No good PGs are available to make an upgrade at that position. They don't need to overpay Mo Williams. Maybe they could go after a PF to play alongside Cousins. Is overpaying Milsap a better idea? Maybe, but that would likely cost $10+ mill, so you're talking similar money. And signing Milsap isn't necessarily as huge an upgrade over Thompson/Patterson, as having Iggy play over Salmons. Iggy is a fantastic distributor. He is like a second PG. This could really help Cousins's game.


Re Denver's offer:
That could be ugly during the 5th year, when Iggy turns 34 and his athleticism might be slipping. But, look at the offer the Kings are making. Does Denver have much of a choice? They've already had coaching and GM changes, and Gallinari is going to be out for part of next year. Unless they are prepared to really drop-off next year, they need to retain Iggy. Letting him go doesn't free enough cap space to make a good signing (they are using birds rights to sign him to that 12.5).


I think both deals are overpayments, but you also need to remember that this guy impacts the game in so many ways. He gets more assists than some starting PGs, is a respectable rebounder, plays very good defense, and is capable of a timely scoring performance when needed.
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Y! Sources: After Kings bail on $56M offer, one free agency truth remains w/ Andre Iguodala - Denver still wants him.
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