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Old 02-25-2014, 03:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I hope not, that's way too big of a change. There's nothing wrong with the current 3 point line. And I don't think the middle or inside are clogged at this point. I don't want a 4 point plays, or 5 point plays lol. Game isn't broken when it comes to that. The floor is spaced out just fine. I don't want another rule which makes offense > defense.
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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But I really hope they dot do this thing, it's a terrible idea imo
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'd rather they take away the 3 pt. line and bring back passing in the game. There are moments when I watch a game and all teams do is just shoot brick after brick trying for a 3.

No 3 pt. line and eliminate zone defenses (so team's can't just sit). I'd be happy with that.
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:36 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I like the idea of a 4 point basket but not an additional line. They should just make shots drained behind the half court line worth 4 points.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:06 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Adam Silver with yet another stupid idea. It's amazing how bad the NBA has become compared to the 80's and 90's.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:27 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:31 PM   #28 (permalink)
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They should make the game full contact and let the players wear padding of all sorts and shorten the season to 30 games.
they should allow body checking to players not holding the ball.

I personally would not be mad if they made a 4 point line
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:37 PM   #29 (permalink)
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They should raise the goal to 10.6 Feet.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:49 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:48 PM   #31 (permalink)
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nah, lol. just leave it t he way it is.
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:54 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:45 AM   #33 (permalink)
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No, the NBA says, the league isn't about to add a 4-point line to an expanded court.

Both ideas have been discussed informally, but there has been zero movement to make them real things, league senior vice president Tim Frank said Tuesday. Frank was responding to questions by ESPN.com of league executives Rod Thorn and Kiki Vandeweghe about the possibilities.

"No one at the NBA, nor the competition committee, has had any serious conversations about increasing the size of the floor or adding a 4-point line," Frank said from the league's Twitter account. "Rod Thorn and Kiki VanDeWeghe were entertaining a line of questioning about out of the box ideas and ESPN.com chose to make a story that doesn’t exist.”

Vandeweghe told ESPN.com's Henry Abbott that "we've actually looked at" how to make the court larger, although Vandeweghe and Thorn noted that arena configurations and teams' desire for premium courtside seating pose challenges.

As to the 4-point idea, Thorn said that many players have suitable range (he mentioned Vince Carter specifically), but wasn't sure coaches would support a change.

Bottom line: Thorn and Vandeweghe aren't lightweights. They're respected, longtime basketball men. If they're saying the ideas have been "looked at," there has to have been more than idle talk about them.
NBA dismisses chatter about 4-point line, bigger court - NBA - Sporting News
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:15 AM   #34 (permalink)
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What's next? Hot spots for extra points like NBA jam?
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:57 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Relatively terrible idea.
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:59 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I'd rather they take away the 3 pt. line and bring back passing in the game. There are moments when I watch a game and all teams do is just shoot brick after brick trying for a 3.
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No 3 pt. line and eliminate zone defenses (so team's can't just sit). I'd be happy with that.

If you want more passing in the game, getting rid of zone defences isn't the way to do it. Zone defence has really brought passing back into the game, because teams are able to stunt on post ups, and pick and roll plays, forcing offences to swing the ball multiple times at a quick rate in order to get an open shot. Without zone defences, teams were forced to commit to a double team or else be called for a violation, leading to more 1 on 1 play, and if teams did double, a higher percentage of the time they got an open shot with the original pass out of the double team.

Zone defences have made the game more open in my opinion, but I wouldnt be against getting rid of the 3 point line so teams just took the best shot available to them rather than trying to get behind the line. Players would have to work harder on their skillsets off of the dribble and in the midrange if they got rid of the 3 which would be a good thing, though the 3 point line is never going to be eliminated.

No 4 pointers though, please.
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Old 02-26-2014, 03:39 PM   #37 (permalink)
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The elimination of illegal defense and implementation of defensive 3 seconds didn't open the game up as much as it just eliminated the stagnant 20 second Mark Jackson / Charles Barkley / Shaq post-up.

Their is now less space in the middle for offenses to operate.

I would like to see the elimation of the high-speed block/charge foul. Eliminate the unnecessary and dangerous flopping underneath the net. Defensive players should stand their ground and stay on their feet.

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Old 02-26-2014, 04:24 PM   #38 (permalink)
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The elimination of illegal defense and implementation of defensive 3 seconds didn't open the game up as much as it just eliminated the stagnant 20 second Mark Jackson / Charles Barkley / Shaq post-up.

Their is now less space in the middle for offenses to operate.

I would like to see the elimation of the high-speed block/charge foul. Eliminate the unnecessary and dangerous flopping underneath the net. Defensive players should stand their ground and stay on their feet.
i dunno man it's tough to stay on your feet when all 250 pounds of man and muscle that is LeBron james is coming at you full speed, looking to run you over. You need the high-speed block/charge call to mitigate that.
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Old 02-27-2014, 01:35 PM   #39 (permalink)
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i dunno man it's tough to stay on your feet when all 250 pounds of man and muscle that is LeBron james is coming at you full speed, looking to run you over. You need the high-speed block/charge call to mitigate that.
I don't think so - On those high-speed collisions they most often result in missed shots anyways. No-call; good defense - get back. Players would have to guard it the same way they would guard it if they were playing a pick-up game.

And if most charge/block calls were in instances like the one you describe, I would think nothing needs to be changed. But now 90% of them are just guys sliding under somebody who is already committed to jumping and they have the pre-emptive flop in mind.

This would do two things;
1. Increase scoring (everybody loves that)
2. Decrease flopping (everybody hates that)
3. Prevent injuries (good for everybody)
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