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jeffb 02-24-2012 10:15 PM

2012 NBA draft not as impressive as first thought?
 
Could this be Colangelo? :frustrated:


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At least one NBA general manager has not been overly impressed so far by the potential 2012 draft class.

"Everyone talks about how great this draft is," one NBA GM said. "On paper in July, it really looked that way. On the ground in February, I'm not that impressed. Anthony Davis is great. But after that, there are a lot of question marks and a surprising lack of depth. I'm not sure that the 2012 draft will be better than the 2011 one."

North Carolina’s Harrison Barnes, Baylor’s Perry Jones, Ohio State’s Jared Sullinger, and Kentucky’s Terrence Jones have failed to show significant improvement from one season to the next while UConn's Andre Drummond and Duke’s Austin Rivers have failed to live up to the hype that surrounded them.

Only two freshmen, Kentucky’s Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Indiana's Cody Zeller, have exceeded expectations.
NBA GM Not Impressed By Potential Draft Pool - RealGM Wiretap

carp 02-24-2012 10:23 PM

It's what I've been saying all along. Trade the pick with ED and let's get Batum and Nolan Smith.

box92 02-24-2012 10:55 PM

MKG, MKG, MKG

LX 02-24-2012 10:56 PM

AD all the way.

jeaxz 02-24-2012 11:03 PM

MKG for shizzleeeee

DVS 02-24-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 619381)
AD all the way.

Hopefully raps get lucky and win

Aamir 02-24-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 619374)
It's what I've been saying all along. Trade the pick with ED and let's get Batum and Nolan Smith.

And what we've been saying is Portland doesn't want Ed and Batum doesn't want Toronto. :P

Northern Neighbour 02-24-2012 11:35 PM

I think this draft is pretty good, assuming most of the guys come out. It's definitely better and deeper than last year's draft. A guy like Drummond has disappointed, but players like MKG, Robinson, and Henson have really developed this year.

TORaptor4Ever 02-25-2012 12:06 AM

More & more I'm thinking that packaging the pick with Jose, Barbosa or Ed (to get a quality player in return) is gonna be the way to go.

jeffb 02-25-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 619408)
More & more I'm thinking that packaging the pick with Jose, Barbosa or Ed (to get a quality player in return) is gonna be the way to go.

It's something to consider if we end up in the 7-8 area or lower.

box92 02-25-2012 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 619411)
It's something to consider if we end up in the 7-8 area or lower.

pick, ed and bayless, for rondo or wall or ellis, since he is apparently on the block. any pg or sg, if we can sign batum or chandler

fk24 02-25-2012 12:38 AM

Bradley Beal/ Michael Gilchrist are going to be sick.

Carlos Danger 02-25-2012 01:27 AM

Austin Rivers HOLA

Ball Don't Lie 02-25-2012 02:04 AM

Just because some of them arent having stand out 2nd years doesnt mean they wont be quality NBA players. Most NCAA teams run the complete opposite sets of what NBA teams run offensively. Chris Paul looked like a 3 point shooting PG with decent passing ability in college, then he got to the NBA, ran a bunch of pick and rolls, and now looks like he may be the best pick and roll PG ever. Its a completely different game.

I still like this draft class. Trading the pick at the deadline would be franchise suicide if we ended up with a top pick and lost out on one of the top guys. I couldnt stand a Kyrie type situation. I'd quit as a Raptor fan.

Obi-Wan Quinnobi 02-25-2012 03:56 AM

There will never be a better P&R player than stockton...

DSWC 02-25-2012 04:02 AM

They say this almost EVERY year until the hype machine starts around the play-in tournaments and culminates into March madness.

They say this to sell papers (or I guess advertising on websites now) then in a couple of weeks, you'll be hearing all of the hype, and some of the exact opposite opinions will come up.

With some big tournaments, a lot of players' stocks will rise (and fall) dramatically.

Shifty.py 02-25-2012 05:41 AM

At least AD is considered the top pick
So many forwards in the draft, some of those could go really low.

LX 02-25-2012 07:28 AM

No packaging our picks. We want an extra pick coming this way.

RAPMAN 02-25-2012 08:56 AM

It has been a very hard season for Raptor fans with all the losing and the regression of Demar and Ed Davis. The only bright spot is this team is learning how to play defense. Let's not trade the pick. So what if there is no franchise player (Lebron, Durant, Rose) in the draft, as long as we get one star player that will fill one position for many years. The franchise needs a major talent infusion, and the best talent comes from the draft.

jeffb 02-25-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RAPMAN (Post 619456)
It has been a very hard season for Raptor fans with all the losing and the regression of Demar and Ed Davis. The only bright spot is this team is learning how to play defense. Let's not trade the pick. So what if there is no franchise player (Lebron, Durant, Rose) in the draft, as long as we get one star player that will fill one position for many years. The franchise needs a major talent infusion, and the best talent comes from the draft.

I've enjoyed this season so far. Maybe because my expectations were pretty low. But I'm liking what I see with our defence, Casey and players like JJ, Kleiza, Bargnani, Jose. Even when we lose, most of the time it's pretty close. This team is competing and is scrappy. I'm encouraged by what I see for the most part.


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