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Brandon Knight 8 21.05%
Kemba Walker 10 26.32%
Enes Kanter 6 15.79%
Jonas Valanciunas 5 13.16%
Terrence Jones 2 5.26%
None of the above, trade down or out of the draft for other assets 7 18.42%
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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9-3 wow.

Considering he's only 18 (at least that's what they say he is- there's a bit of speculation that he may be a few years older), he might still grow. Add a couple a few inches and maybe he can dunk by tip-toeing.

He still has a lot of ways to go though. Reggie Evans is like 2 times better than him on offence, which is saying a lot. He can't do much else but dunking the ball.
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:05 PM   #22 (permalink)
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9-3 wow.

Considering he's only 18 (at least that's what they say he is- there's a bit of speculation that he may be a few years older), he might still grow. Add a couple a few inches and maybe he can dunk by tip-toeing.

He still has a lot of ways to go though. Reggie Evans is like 2 times better than him on offence, which is saying a lot. He can't do much else but dunking the ball.
Reggie isn't better then him, he can't even dunk let alone do anything else (other then rebound).

They did a test on him that proved he's 18...

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Many NBA scouts and executives believe Bismack Biyombo is older than his listed age of 18.

Coaches who have worked with Biyombo earlier in his career while he was still in Congo think he's “no older than 20 at most,” while Biyombo's agent, Igor Crespo, has evidence that proves Biyombo is even younger.

Crespo claims he took Biyombo to a specialist to conduct a bone age study immediately upon his arrival in Spain. The study involves taking x-rays of an adolescent's wrist and hand to see if his growth plates are still open. Because the cartilage in Biyombo's hand hadn't fused at that point, the specialist came to the conclusion that he could be 16 or 17 at most, but not 18, when growth plates are expected to be closed.

This obviously rules out the possibility of Biyombo being five to eight years older than he's listed, as the wild speculation we've seen recently on the Internet indicates. Crespo says he will willingly share these x-rays with any NBA team that requests them.
Agent Claims He Can Prove Biyombo's Age - RealGM Wiretap

DraftExpress: Finding a Niche For: Bismack Biyombo

BTW Something that hasn't been mentioned here about his is that he has a strong leadership personality too. Which we also need.

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Old 04-24-2011, 09:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Reggie isn't better then him, he can't even dunk let alone do anything else (other then rebound).

They did a test on him that proved he's 18...



Agent Claims He Can Prove Biyombo's Age - RealGM Wiretap

DraftExpress: Finding a Niche For: Bismack Biyombo

BTW Something that hasn't been mentioned here about his is that he has a strong leadership personality too. Which we also need.
reggie can dunk
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Even the top prospects of this draft are at least a year, and Irving and Val. case maybe 2-4 years away from being a positive part of a team. So it really comes down to whether you want to be winning in the next year or building toward a future. We realistically don't have a shot at the playoffs until the current Boston team loses KG or Pierce. Because lets face it we aren't going to out develop NY or NJ. And the chance that 4 teams make it out of the Atlantic is pretty slim. The draft Isn't going to resolve that not even if we took the number one over all for the next 2 years. Thats why I voted to trade away our pick, because youth will not resolve this issue. We need experience to steady the ship. Or we will continue to be the D-league within the NBA, developing the likes of DD and Davis and then watching them sign bigger more lucrative contracts with contenders.
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Even the top prospects of this draft are at least a year, and Irving and Val. case maybe 2-4 years away from being a positive part of a team. So it really comes down to whether you want to be winning in the next year or building toward a future. We realistically don't have a shot at the playoffs until the current Boston team loses KG or Pierce. Because lets face it we aren't going to out develop NY or NJ. And the chance that 4 teams make it out of the Atlantic is pretty slim. The draft Isn't going to resolve that not even if we took the number one over all for the next 2 years. Thats why I voted to trade away our pick, because youth will not resolve this issue. We need experience to steady the ship. Or we will continue to be the D-league within the NBA, developing the likes of DD and Davis and then watching them sign bigger more lucrative contracts with contenders.
realistically, what can we even get with the pick? its not just us who knows how weak the draft is.. yes, we are in a bad situation in terms of competition, but the key to resolution is not in trading away young assets for slightly better vets. even that wont get us to a 50 percent win record so why not just stick it down the highroad and hope we somehow end up with the next rose?
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Is this year the worst draft year ever?
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:23 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Is this year the worst draft year ever?
Doubtful. Every year this questions seems to come up. Well pretty much every year.
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:26 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Doubtful. Every year this questions seems to come up. Well pretty much every year.
especially after 03
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Trade for next year draft pick & continue the dreadfull tank!
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And pretty much every year, it turns out nowhere near as bad as projected.
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Wow, with Barnes and Sullinger staying this year, next year's draft is gunna be crazy!!!

Anthony Davis
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Perry Jones
Quincy Miller
Michael Gilchrist
Austin Rivers(number 1?)
Adonis Thomas



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Wow, with Barnes and Sullinger staying this year, next year's draft is gunna be crazy!!!

Anthony Davis
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Perry Jones
Quincy Miller
Michael Gilchrist
Austin Rivers(number 1?)
Adonis Thomas



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. Wonder how long it'll take before someone says that 2012 is overrated and it'll be a horrible draft year.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:43 PM   #33 (permalink)
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. Wonder how long it'll take before someone says that 2012 is overrated and it'll be a horrible draft year.
Any of those players can be top 3 in this year's draft. I'm not sure if that means anythin.
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2000 was definitely worse:
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realistically, what can we even get with the pick? its not just us who knows how weak the draft is.. yes, we are in a bad situation in terms of competition, but the key to resolution is not in trading away young assets for slightly better vets. even that wont get us to a 50 percent win record so why not just stick it down the highroad and hope we somehow end up with the next rose?
I think its not what it gets us but what goes with it thats the most important part. This pick, if we happen to grab the second or third, paired with an Andrea, Josie, or Amir gets us two upper tier players or one elite( more then likely not all-star caliber ) and one scrub if necessary. For sure I agree with you in the long run isn't go to net us much. But MLSE is going to be focused on getting asses in the seats, so whether its BC or who ever, they're going to be pushing a deal that brings hope and swing in season ticket sales. Tanking isn't going to be viewed in the same way by ownership this year as it was last. And our Euros will continue to be goated by fans until they are gone. So your focus has to be on clearing the way for progress, as opposed to adding more to a flawed team.
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LMAO That is just awfulllll. I never knew about that draft. It actually makes me sick haha..

No stars there at all. A lot of no names. The top 10 barely amounted to anything.

The best players in that draft: Kenyon Martin, Hedo Turkoglu, Michael Redd, Mike Miller and Jamal Crawford. Facepalm. Wow. I hope this year's draft isn't even comparable to that.
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Yeah, the 2000 NBA draft was awful, mainly because the 1998 and 1999 lotteries were stacked with talent. Eventually something had to give.
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Even 2003 was touted as a three prospect draft. Lebron, Melo and Darko were the gems, and after that, talent was supposed to drop off considerably. Which is why I remember feeling scolded picking 4th.
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Even 2003 was touted as a three prospect draft. Lebron, Melo and Darko were the gems, and after that, talent was supposed to drop off considerably. Which is why I remember feeling scolded picking 4th.
??? That's not really the way I remember things. Maybe you were a bit younger in 2003, which meant you weren't following things as closely. That's not an insult or anything; I'm just trying to think of why you might remember it that way.

I remember a lot of discussion about Lebron, Melo, and Darko all being worthy of going #1 in any other draft year. But because of that, reports stated that some good players were going to be available later on. Itn terms of depth, it was viewed as a respectable lottery. Yes, I do remember people saying the talent was suppose to drop off, but since Lebron, Melo and Darko were believed to be superstar talents, the drop off was to a "possible all-star" level. A number of analysts thought Bosh, Wade and TJ Ford had legit all-star potential, although Ford slipped on draft day. Glen Gurnwald was so convinced by the Raptor scouts' claims Bosh would be very good, that he refused to trade the 4th pick, even after Carter pressured him to trade down and pick up veteran players in the process.

If you listen to this clip about D-Wade, they talk about him as if he could be a future all-star. I suspect the only reason D-Wade never got the same hype as Carmelo was because D-Wade's shooting was a bit of a question mark.

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