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EggsToTheBBQ 05-23-2011 12:05 PM

Take Five
 
The Raptors have the fifth pick. So, list your top five prospects.

1. Derrick Williams
2. Kyrie Irving
3. Jonas Valanciunas
4. Enes Kanter
5. Bismack Biyombo

I'd be happy with any of those picks.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 05-23-2011 12:11 PM

Irving
Williams
Kanter
Knight
Not sure. Probably one of Vesely or Valanciunas. Haven't seen either of their games.


Brandon Knight has been one of my favorite prospect for a few months now. If the Raptors fell in the draft(like they did) he was one guy I was hoping would be there where the Raptors pick.

Aamir 05-23-2011 02:53 PM

Not hard.


Irving
Williams
Knight
Kemba
Leohnard(sp)

dfunkie1 05-23-2011 04:01 PM

irving
kanter
knight
williams
kemba

if you asked me again in five minutes, i'd have it in a completely different order.

although it extremely possibly that i'll be wrong, i think williams will be the dude on camera for his sad face reaction after being passed up.

Don Vito 05-23-2011 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 541945)
Not hard.


Irving
Williams
Knight
Kemba
Leohnard(sp)

LOL Leonard? Really? James Johnson > Leonard ... doesn't make any sense at all to draft him.

This draft is lacking NBA-ready talent, so guys with high upside/potential are going to be the superior selection.. Leonard doesn't even come close to that.

DocHoliday99 05-23-2011 08:08 PM

Since picking the top 5 means picking the draft order I'd go with this:

1. Kyrie Irving
2. Derrick Williams
3. Brandon Knight
4. Jonas Valanciunas
5. Enes Kanter

TO trades Kanter/Bargs/Filler/2012pick for Ellis/Epke/2011pick.

11. Bismack

Ok that trade is wishful thinking but I can dream and Bargs can have somewhere warm to play ;)

Bayless/JC
Ellis/Barbosa
DD/JJ
Davis/Amir
Epke/Bismack

Aamir 05-23-2011 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 541957)
irving
kanter
knight
williams
kemba

if you asked me again in five minutes, i'd have it in a completely different order.

although it extremely possibly that i'll be wrong, i think williams will be the dude on camera for his sad face reaction after being passed up.

Why would he be passed up? Unless something horribly goes wrong during the workouts, interviews etc., he is a lock for 1-2.

Aamir 05-23-2011 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocHoliday99 (Post 542000)
Since picking the top 5 means picking the draft order I'd go with this:

1. Kyrie Irving
2. Derrick Williams
3. Brandon Knight
4. Jonas Valanciunas
5. Enes Kanter

TO trades Kanter/Bargs/Filler/2012pick for Ellis/Epke/2011pick.

11. Bismack

Ok that trade is wishful thinking but I can dream and Bargs can have somewhere warm to play ;)

Bayless/JC
Ellis/Barbosa
DD/JJ
Davis/Amir
Epke/Bismack

That's not even that bad of a trade for GS. Btw, we would have 4 PF's.

DocHoliday99 05-23-2011 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 542007)
That's not even that bad of a trade for GS. Btw, we would have 4 PF's.

Well my thoughts were that Evans and Ajinca are FA's. We could keep either, I'd like Evans but wasn't there talk of him coaching? maybe not yet but thats the one I'd keep for the third pf.

Bayless/JC
Ellis/Barbosa
DD/JJ/Wright/Kleiza
Davis/Amir/Evans
Epke/Bismack/Dorsey

jeffb 05-23-2011 09:42 PM

1. Irving
2. Williams
3. knight
4. Kanter
5. Walker

Aamir 05-24-2011 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocHoliday99 (Post 542010)
Well my thoughts were that Evans and Ajinca are FA's. We could keep either, I'd like Evans but wasn't there talk of him coaching? maybe not yet but thats the one I'd keep for the third pf.

Bayless/JC
Ellis/Barbosa
DD/JJ/Wright/Kleiza
Davis/Amir/Evans
Epke/Bismack/Dorsey

Udoh and Bismack are PF's.

DSWC 05-24-2011 03:19 AM

I get like this every year...if we're drafting 10th, I like 9 players. If we're 7th, I like 6 players. This year is no different.

I like:
Williams
Irving(2nd because I honestly question his ability to stay healthy for the long-term)
Kemba
Knight

If I had to take a 5th. I guess I'd gamble and maybe take Biyombo or Kanter (to trade).

I want one if the 2 PGs listed at 3/4, and while I prefer Kemba, I'd take either. So on draft night I'm hoping that there are no trades and Cleveland takes kyrie #1 and a big at #4 letting one if the two PGs slip to us.

rapsmannn 05-24-2011 04:16 AM

1.Kanter
2.Williams
3.Knight
4.Vesely
5.Irving

Beans 05-24-2011 11:25 AM

Sorry, I didn't clue into the intent of the thread. Raps need a better SF and C, and have an aging, injury prone PG.

1. Williams
2. Kanter
3. Irving
4. Knight
5. Walker

Other than Kanter, the other bigs strike me as projects. Maybe I'd be happy with Valanciunas, if his contract issues are not a problem.

Aamir 05-24-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rapsmannn (Post 542111)
1.Kanter
2.Williams
3.Knight
4.Vesely
5.Irving

There is no chance the order is going down that way.

EggsToTheBBQ 05-24-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 542186)
There is no chance the order is going down that way.

That's not the point of the thread, though.

Pick your top 5 Raptor picks. I don't care about the other teams. If you can rank your top 5 picks for the Raptors, then it's guaranteed that one of them will be available when the Raptors pick at #5.

I actually agree that Irving could slip. His conditioning isn't great, and he had an injury that could be an issue over the course of his career. Also, he'll probably never be considered among the top point guards of the league. (Rose, CP3, DWill, Westbrook, Rondo maybe Wall in a few years)

In my opinion, the guys that have a chance to be considered at some point in their careers at the top 5 at their position are the international centers. I don't see any of the North American prospects as having that potential. Except possibly Derrick Williams, if he can make a smooth transition to SF.

RaptorsFan4Life 05-24-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 542090)
Udoh and Bismack are PF's.

Bismack has the reach, explosiveness and mass to play C.

(We aren't going to get Irving or Williams so it's pointless to put them on the list)

1. Bismack
2. Knight
3. Walker
4. Jones V
5. Jimmer Fredette

Aamir 05-24-2011 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaptorsFan4Life (Post 542229)
Bismack has the reach, explosiveness and mass to play C.

(We aren't going to get Irving or Williams so it's pointless to put them on the list)

1. Bismack
2. Knight
3. Walker
4. Jones V
5. Jimmer Fredette

I hope the day comes soon where we can grab a legit center. A defensive one.

Bargnani, Ajinca, Amir, Davis, Reggie, Dorsey are not centers. And I don't know too much about Bismack, but I still doubt he'll be an everyday center in this league.

DocHoliday99 05-24-2011 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 542267)
I hope the day comes soon where we can grab a legit center. A defensive one.

Bargnani, Ajinca, Amir, Davis, Reggie, Dorsey are not centers. And I don't know too much about Bismack, but I still doubt he'll be an everyday center in this league.

You realize that Ajinca, Amir, Davis and Reggie are PF's for the Raps? I agree about Bargs and Dorsey though

DocHoliday99 05-24-2011 07:48 PM

Jerry West is now consulting and part owner of the Warriors and wherever West goes he advocates for a center...If we drafted Kanter I would look for a trade there. I still believe that Kanter/Bargs/TPE for Ellis/2011 pick for Bismack would work well for both.

I think these 4 will be off the board: Williams, Irving, Kanter, Knight.

I can't even guess what the Raps will do....I'm hoping Jonas goes so Knight or Kanter slips down but it seems he might be a year or two away and these teams need help now. That leaves Walker, Leonard, Burks and gambles with Bismack and Jonas as the top 5 left I would consider for the Raps. I'm hoping that the project BC was talking about doesn't mean Jonas - not that I don't like him but if he can't come over now.....


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