Raptors frontrunner for #2 pick?
Old 06-06-2011, 01:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 78,652
Representing:
Raptors Raptors frontrunner for #2 pick?

Quote:
Jason in GA:
Just a thought but wouldn't Derozan and the five for Flynn and the two help both teams? Gives Toronto some front court star power and Minnesota a legit 2, thoughts?

Bill Ingram:
It really would . . .I know the Wolves are exploring a lot of options for trading the #2, and DeRozan is one of the better young shooting guards in the league. He and Rubio could potentially be good for years to come. Derrick Williams would clearly help the Raptors, as well. I've been told by the Wolves that Toronto is the frontrunner for the #2 so far, but there's lots of time for someone else to make an offer Kahn can't refuse.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Chat.asp?C...#ixzz1OVjPbexw
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 01:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
is pounding the rock!

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,625
Representing:
Default

I wouldn't deal the #2 pick and DD for #5 and Flynn. Then again, I'm not a huge fan of Williams, as he reminds me too much of a cross between Thaddeus Young and Evan Turner. Basically, a good player but not a franchise or star player.

I do wonder if maybe Bargnani is being offered - something like Bargnani and #5 for Milicic and #2.
Northern Neighbour is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 01:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
a Raps fan

Senior Member
 
creative1mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 1,494
Representing:
Default

what a silly move that would be
creative1mm is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 01:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 78,652
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Neighbour View Post
I wouldn't deal the #2 pick and DD for #5 and Flynn. Then again, I'm not a huge fan of Williams, as he reminds me too much of a cross between Thaddeus Young and Evan Turner. Basically, a good player but not a franchise or star player.

I do wonder if maybe Bargnani is being offered - something like Bargnani and #5 for Milicic and #2.

He didn't say that would be the deal, that was the fan suggesting that. Not sure what the deal would be but i can't see us trading Derozan for Williams and essentially the #5 pick for Flynn. Makes little sense imo. All it would do is strengthen us at the 3 while weakening us at the 2. It's at best a lateral move. Now if we can do an Amir/#5 for #2/Flynn i'd do it.

Last edited by jeffb; 06-06-2011 at 02:15 PM.
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 01:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
is pounding the rock!

Senior Member
 
Superjudge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 17,592
Representing:
Default

Turning Derozan into Kanter might not be a bad thing.
Superjudge is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 01:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 78,652
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superjudge View Post
Turning Derozan into Kanter might not be a bad thing.
Ideally if we trade Derozan we get to keep the #5 pick. Turning Derozan/filler + TPE into Flynn/Williams and picking a Center @ #5 would be massive imo and we'd still have Jose/Bargnani to trade. But we'd have to give more then that you would think, to keep the #5.
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 78,652
Representing:
Default

Would anyone want:

Love/Flynn/#2

for

Bargnani/Derozan/TPE/#5

Can't see Minny doing this though but, Kahn is a little nutso...

Bayless/Flynn
? /Barbosa
Williams/JJ/Kleiza
Davis/Amir/Evans
Love/??/Alabi
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
jonas smellandchewthis

Senior Member
 
thought's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,738
Representing:
Default

i do not want kevin love starting at centre for us. that's a lateral move if it's not making us marginally better.

who is cleveland leaning towards picking #1? I don't think it's set in stone they're picking irving. If Irving is going to be there at 2 (and I think there's a good chance of that) we have a much better shot at snagging that second pick because Minny has no need for that pick anymore.
thought is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 78,652
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thought View Post
i do not want kevin love starting at centre for us. that's a lateral move if it's not making us marginally better.

who is cleveland leaning towards picking #1? I don't think it's set in stone they're picking irving. If Irving is going to be there at 2 (and I think there's a good chance of that) we have a much better shot at snagging that second pick because Minny has no need for that pick anymore.
Love over Bargnani is lateral? Are you serious?
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
jonas smellandchewthis

Senior Member
 
thought's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,738
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffb View Post
Love over Bargnani is lateral? Are you serious?
it's not improving the team enough to warrant trading away derozan. kevin love is just as much of a stiff on defense (and blocks less shots), and realistically how much of a difference will the increase in rebounding make? Rebounding isn't a devastating issue for this team. It's defense. And Love doesn' address that.
thought is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
raptor jesus

Senior Member
 
Don Vito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 3,933
Representing:
Default

WTF hell no, trade anyone but derozan and davis... I wouldn't trade them for anyone in this weak draft.
Don Vito is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 78,652
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thought View Post
it's not improving the team enough to warrant trading away derozan. kevin love is just as much of a stiff on defense (and blocks less shots), and realistically how much of a difference will the increase in rebounding make? Rebounding isn't a devastating issue for this team. It's defense. And Love doesn' address that.
First of all this is highly unlikely to say the least. But I'd take Love/Davis over what we have now, and sorry but defensive rebounding and allowing 2nd chance points is a huge problem on this team and that would be cut down immensely with a Love/Davis combination. Plus he's only 22yrs old and imo if the right coach is brought in he could be fine defensively. And secondly let's face it, who is better then Love at the Center position that we'd have a shot at getting here?
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 78,652
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Vito View Post
WTF hell no, trade anyone but derozan and davis... I wouldn't trade them for anyone in this weak draft.
Again, that wasn't more then a suggestion from the person posing the question.
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
Follow @raptorsforum on twitter

Senior Member

 
box92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 6,819
Representing:
Default

I hope we are not trading derozan I would be really pissed
box92 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
the gat'll killya quicker, when I'm drunk off the liquor

The Mara sisters are hot!
 
Bill Haverchuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10,457
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thought View Post
who is cleveland leaning towards picking #1? I don't think it's set in stone they're picking irving. If Irving is going to be there at 2 (and I think there's a good chance of that) we have a much better shot at snagging that second pick because Minny has no need for that pick anymore.
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Are you suggesting Irving drops because Cleveland takes Williams, or because Cleveland takes Kanter?

Minny is stacked at the SF/PF positions and now appears to have Rubio comming over. So, really, Minny does not have a pressing need for Irving or Williams. Though, Minny could really use a Center for the future. In my opinion, which could be flawed, the T-Wolves are probably looking really hard at Kanter.
Bill Haverchuck is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 03:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
Is wondering when the Patman and JJ will be unleashed?

Membres supérieurs
 
DocHoliday99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Southern Alberta
Posts: 5,112
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck View Post
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Are you suggesting Irving drops because Cleveland takes Williams, or because Cleveland takes Kanter?

Minny is stacked at the SF/PF positions and now appears to have Rubio comming over. So, really, Minny does not have a pressing need for Irving or Williams. Though, Minny could really use a Center for the future. In my opinion, which could be flawed, the T-Wolves are probably looking really hard at Kanter.
For Cleveland to maximize it's picks I would believe Williams would go first. Irving will fall IMO past Minny as Kanter would be great there. Irving picked up by Utah and then I'm going to say walker 4th - I think if the Cavs run a 1-2 of Bdiddy and Walker with Williams/Hickson and Noah, it would be the best line coming out for them. I like Knight but I see Walker higher with the intangibles he brings to the table. Of course, this barring any trades.
DocHoliday99 is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 04:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
grabbin boards, droppin dimes, and lightin them up

Senior Member
 
Alex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,231
Representing:
Default

I really don't want Flynn. I say that each position should have players that aren't too alike, and Flynn is too much like JB.
Alex is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 05:22 PM   #18 (permalink)
payin Dwyane Wade

Senior Member
 
JoeyJoJo Shabbadu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 5,602
Representing:
Default

Derozan
5th Pick
Jose (backup and train Rubio)

Flynn
2nd Pick
Wesley Johnson .... (and Webster or Darko to balance?)

Assuming we are after Williams. No trade with Minny makes sense if we want Irving (unless it's 3 ways).

Seems like we are on the short end a bit but this seem what he's possibly talking about...
JoeyJoJo Shabbadu is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 06:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
Captain of the Jamario Moon fan club.

Born Unready
 
Dark Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Electric Avenue
Posts: 15,585
Representing:
Default

I'm not ready to give up on DeRozan yet. I still think his potential is higher than anyone's in the draft.
Dark Knight is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 06:51 PM   #20 (permalink)
making funny and strange dark trade in his mind !!!

Senior Member
 
Bankiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,524
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
I'm not ready to give up on DeRozan yet. I still think his potential is higher than anyone's in the draft.
+1.

if there is a keeper in this roster, he is the one.
i don't think BC will do a move before hurung a new HC. it will not make sense.
Bankiz is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright RaptorsForum.com 2005-2011

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24