The Official RF 2011 Mock Draft - Page 4
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after the entire stadium laughs at Cleveland and the broadcasters close their mouths, Stern walks up to the podium.....

With the 2nd pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, the Minnesota Timberwolves select Kyrie Irving out of Duke University!!!

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after the entire stadium laughs at Cleveland and the broadcasters close their mouths, Stern walks up to the podium.....

With the 2nd pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, the Washington Wizards select Kyrie Irving out of Duke University!!!
Washington? Isn't it Minnesota, who would certainly not need another PG??
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ummmmmmmm..... was there a trade of some sort?
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1. Cleveland - Superjudge - Enes Kanter 6-11 259lbs. PF/C Kentucky Fr.
2. Minnesota - INSIDER - Kyrie Irving 6-3 191lbs. PG Duke Fr.
3. Utah - Claudius
4. Cleveland - 'trane
5. Toronto - jeffb
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7. Sacramento - VanCity
8. Detroit - js12
9. Charlotte - OP13
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12. Utah - Dark Knight
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15. Indiana - Chiggmo
16. Philadelphia - J-Bo
17. New York - thought
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Washington? Isn't it Minnesota, who would certainly not need another PG??
sorry, that was meant to say Minny....
and believe me, if Irving is on the board at 2, Minny takes him...
they'd take another PG instead of another college PF in a NBA SF body.

rubio is a question mark.
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sorry, that was meant to say Minny....
and believe me, if Irving is on the board at 2, Minny takes him...
they'd take another PG instead of another college PF in a NBA SF body.

rubio is a question mark.
They'd be better off with D. Williams imo. But you may have a point.
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Say what ya want Insider. Cleveland picks again real soon. They will then have the best big man in the draft, as well as an equal to better PG from the same draft.

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Say what ya want Insider. Cleveland picks again real soon. They will then have the best big man in the draft, as well as an equal to better PG from the same draft.

Sj is GM elite.
I would of done the same thing honestly, Kanter is looking to be a beast, and good big men don't come around often. I dunno about Williams although still think he will be good, and Knight can turn out just to be as good or better than Irving. Also Walker would still be around and a good option as well.
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I would of done the same thing honestly, Kanter is looking to be a beast, and good big men don't come around often. I dunno about Williams although still think he will be good, and Knight can turn out just to be as good or better than Irving. Also Walker would still be around and a good option as well.
I bet Kanter would still be there @ #4. In the actual draft.
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I'm not sur ehe would, thats why I used #1 on him.
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I'm not sur ehe would, thats why I used #1 on him.
Williams is going 2 or 3 which leaves one of Minnesota or Utah. Utah doesn't need a big and is likely taking a PG, Minnesota doesn't need a Center and the only way Kanter goes #2 is if Minny trades the pick and even then I say Williams goes #2. Who knows though really. But IMO Kanter is not the best player.
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Williams is going 2 or 3 which leaves one of Minnesota or Utah. Utah doesn't need a big and is likely taking a PG, Minnesota doesn't need a Center and the only way Kanter goes #2 is if Minny trades the pick and even then I say Williams goes #2. Who knows though really. But IMO Kanter is not the best player.
Minny needs a C more than williams or irving (arguable with irving)
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I hear ya. I see it like this. Cleveland is terrible. So they need quality everywhere. They have a decent big down there already....Varejao, so adding another young solid and skilled big beside him actually makes their front court pretty good with room to grow.

Because you simply aren't getting a super star PG, not in my opinion as a fantasy GM anyhow, I take my chances with whats left at 4. But I know I have solidified my center position with the best available big in the draft, and I have left to chance the position that is a major draft toss up, hell I may not even look at a PG at 4 if I'm trane, I'd look at a few other2/3 options first as the PG spot in cleveland is fine for now.
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I hear ya. I see it like this. Cleveland is terrible. So they need quality everywhere. They have a decent big down there already....Varejao, so adding another young solid and skilled big beside him actually makes their front court pretty good with room to grow.

Because you simply aren't getting a super star PG, not in my opinion as a fantasy GM anyhow, I take my chances with whats left at 4. But I know I have solidified my center position with the best available big in the draft, and I have left to chance the position that is a major draft toss up, hell I may not even look at a PG at 4 if I'm trane, I'd look at a few other2/3 options first as the PG spot in cleveland is fine for now.
i get your argument, but have no idea why the conclusion is to draft a huge question mark that essentially hasn't played organized ball in more than a year and has never really faced high level competition. you make it sound like you have locked the position down, but none of us have any idea whether this is true or whether he will be effective at the nba lavel at any position. he's certainly no sure thing.

i also get why you would avoid a pg since they already have davis. but since their wing players are parker, joey graham, eyenga and maybe antawn jamison (can he still play the 3?) i have to wonder why you didn't look at a guy who could be their starting 3 going forward.

say you pick williams at #1, you can play jamison at the 4, varejao at the 5, and then look to parker and davis as your back court with knight or kemba coming off the bench, or even look to vesely or something like that at 4 to solidify the bigs.

right now, it's looking like davis, parker, graham, jamison/varejao and kanter. who do i pick at 4? a backup pg? vesely? leonard? isn't there a giant hole at 3?

just saying it's not such a sure thing that you have solidified your centre position.
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i get your argument, but have no idea why the conclusion is to draft a huge question mark that essentially hasn't played organized ball in more than a year and has never really faced high level competition. you make it sound like you have locked the position down, but none of us have any idea whether this is true or whether he will be effective at the nba lavel at any position. he's certainly no sure thing.

i also get why you would avoid a pg since they already have davis. but since their wing players are parker, joey graham, eyenga and maybe antawn jamison (can he still play the 3?) i have to wonder why you didn't look at a guy who could be their starting 3 going forward.

say you pick williams at #1, you can play jamison at the 4, varejao at the 5, and then look to parker and davis as your back court with knight or kemba coming off the bench, or even look to vesely or something like that at 4 to solidify the bigs.

right now, it's looking like davis, parker, graham, jamison/varejao and kanter. who do i pick at 4? a backup pg? vesely? leonard? isn't there a giant hole at 3?

just saying it's not such a sure thing that you have solidified your centre position.

I agree with all of this.
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Say what ya want Insider. Cleveland picks again real soon. They will then have the best big man in the draft, as well as an equal to better PG from the same draft.

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i like that you took a risk and it changed the dimension of the draft, and there is a small possibility it could happen (very small)... my arguement here is that Cleveland isnt drafting for position, they will be drafting BPA. remember, they broke the futility record for straight loses in a season... they want their fans to forget Lebron and thus; NEED a star. which is why they grab the Best Player Available.
that being said, i think Kanter is available @ 4 anyway and they grab him there.... otherwise trade up a spot with Utah to get him. I really dont think they have the balls to select him #1 overall.
but who knows... the hype on him is huge and he could be the next big thing.... but so close after losing James and shitting the bed last season; its a risk cleveland doesnt have the balls to take, IMO.
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Williams is going 2 or 3 which leaves one of Minnesota or Utah. Utah doesn't need a big and is likely taking a PG, Minnesota doesn't need a Center and the only way Kanter goes #2 is if Minny trades the pick and even then I say Williams goes #2. Who knows though really. But IMO Kanter is not the best player.
Why doesn't Minnesota need a Center?

Darko? Come on. Darko is a short term solution.
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Why doesn't Minnesota need a Center?

Darko? Come on. Darko is a short term solution.
What??? Darko is Vlad Divac. Darko is Shaq. Darko is MJ, at C. Darko is Darko.
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trades are too hard in this exercise brother so I left um out.
I saw footage of Kanter working out, I can tell just by looking at him that he's the real deal. He has a very solid core, strong as an ox, VERY nice footwork and a nose for the rock..... So I like um. Remember, Varejao is there too, so there is enough length between the two of um.

As for trane, I'll tell you what man, I don't think he'd last that long, except maybe here. I think a lot of GM's are keeping quiet about him, but I truly think he's top of more than one GM's wish list. So Who to take for you now. You're right actually about Veesely or Leonard. Maybe even Poke about at Kemba, Jimmer (huge Darkhorse, I read nobody can guard him in workouts, he's killing um all) Either way Cleveland can grab some talent, but at least I know I grabbed them a really tough kid at the C spot. NEVER a bad idea.
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