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Old 06-24-2013, 08:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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June 27, 2013
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Draft is 3 days away, and even though we don't have any picks right now things could change on the draft night, Enjoy!

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Old 06-25-2013, 04:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I pumped you started a thread I've been reading up on this draft watching videos like I work for a nba team and cheering for team who doesn't even have a pick in this draft,

but I just love the draft

so far with everything I seen I love Oladipo, if I had the no 1 pick I would use it on his, noel and len have to many questions marks

i don't know how you pick mclemore, noel, len, and otto porter ahead of Oladipo,

i know i wouldn't do it

another player I like but is getting ripped up for his age and not living up to the hype is Shabazz, i think he would be solid player that would help your team, he would get buckets

for a draft where there is a lot of players that you don't know that will make it in the nba you know Shabazz will be player, i'm not saying allstar level but good

i like Olynyk guy has so many skills plus he works hard, hustles, he would be great to have off the bench for any team

not a fan of trey burke or cj McCollum, the pg draft this year is up in the air, i don't know who is going to be the best pg in this years draft class it could be Michael Carter Williams but he doesn't play hard all the time, or it could shroeder from Germany

if your draft need is pg your in big trouble in this draft its going to be hit and miss
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Despite everyone saying that Oladipo has the highest ceiling, I wouldn't necessarily agree. Mclemore is a very good prospect too imo, who happens to be a very good shooter,so I could see teams drafting him at 1. Porter on other hand is most nba ready out of the pack, and he can already do so many things. Cavs need a SF so Porter makes the most seance, plus they said they are already in the win now mode.
My top 4 would be: (as of right now, I did change my mind few times over the last week)
Mclemore
Oladipo
Porter
Noel

and I agree draft is always very exciting for me, even if we are not in it.
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Mclemore looks good but i'm not sure if he has the work ethic or mentality to maximize his talent or ability

this is an andrea Bargnani warning, sublime talent but is he going to waste it or use it
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Otto Porter is my favorite. The safest pick. He reminds me of Granger a lot. And Prince. Kind of a leaner, more active Granger.

Then Iguod... I mean, Oladipo. Also looks like a safe pick.

Then McLemore/Bennett. I think they are the highest upside picks. I think their floor is lower than the first two. They might be just average starters. But I think more likely than not, one of them will be the best player in the draft. I just prefer safer picks in this case, which is Porter/Oladipo.

Noel. aka Larry Sanders. Also safe-ish. I don't know about his knees.

Then Len. He reminds me of a bigger Gortat. But doesn't always play hard. So who knows. A project either way. And feet issues for a young 7 footer... doesn't sound good.

Then Pope. I think he's a very safe pick as well with solid upside. A better version of Wesley Matthews or Afflalo. More athletic.

I think in the end, Porter/Oladipo/Burke/McCollum/Shabazz/Glen Rice are the main candidates for rookie of the year, depending on where each lands (backup or big minutes).
But neither of them will be the best player in the draft in 10 years, if I had to guess.

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Old 06-25-2013, 08:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i can't believe it's only a couple of days away. this draft just isn't interesting.
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The more teams I talk to in the late 20's, the less enthusiasm I hear from any of them about keeping their draft picks.

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Here’s one to think about:

If the Raptors do indeed get themselves into the draft on Thursday night – and the word around is that they’d like to – they’re going in sort of blind.

Because of the management change and the fact none of the agents of draft eligible kids would give a team without a pick a second glance, they haven’t worked out a soul individually.

Yes, they were represented at a couple of gang workouts for potential second-rounders but the guy who was there no longer works for the organization.

So they’ll be going on a wing and a prayer and what little information they’d have on these kids culled from the one or two times they might have seen them in the regular season in college or in Europe.

Mean anything?

It might; I don’t think the workout thing is too big – those individual sessions are hardly definitive – but the meetings, the chats, the interaction away from the gym can be telling.

And they don’t have an awful lot of information on that to go on.

Best of luck.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
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how would they be going in blind, mu didn't watch any college basketball, that means he didn't do any homework


if he wants in the draft there is player he likes, he isn't going in the draft for the sake of going into the draft, there is going to be a reason

now if he doesn't get in that means he doesn't think it worth what is asked
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Otto Porter is my favorite. The safest pick. He reminds me of Granger a lot. And Prince. Kind of a leaner, more active Granger.

Then Iguod... I mean, Oladipo. Also looks like a safe pick.

Then McLemore/Bennett. I think they are the highest upside picks. I think their floor is lower than the first two. They might be just average starters. But I think more likely than not, one of them will be the best player in the draft. I just prefer safer picks in this case, which is Porter/Oladipo.

Noel. aka Larry Sanders. Also safe-ish. I don't know about his knees.

Then Len. He reminds me of a bigger Gortat. But doesn't always play hard. So who knows. A project either way. And feet issues for a young 7 footer... doesn't sound good.

Then Pope. I think he's a very safe pick as well with solid upside. A better version of Wesley Matthews or Afflalo. More athletic.

I think in the end, Porter/Oladipo/Burke/McCollum/Shabazz/Glen Rice are the main candidates for rookie of the year, depending on where each lands (backup or big minutes).
But neither of them will be the best player in the draft in 10 years, if I had to guess.
they say he doesn't do anything great but i think he does

just want to say this about porter i did notice is that he plays great defense and is very good at reading the play and picking the ball from the offense

he gets some sneaky steals

he does that great

so i'm turning in the other direction i'm starting to like his game because he works hard and has great basketball iq,

wasn't a huge fan of his but i do realize why some might take him ahead of oladipo

don't get me wrong tho i still would take oladipo ahead of him but i get it now
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I think in the end, Porter/Oladipo/Burke/McCollum/Shabazz/Glen Rice are the main candidates for rookie of the year, depending on where each lands (backup or big minutes).
But neither of them will be the best player in the draft in 10 years, if I had to guess.
3 ROY candidates depending on the team they go on and injuries. not so much the other 3.

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Old 06-26-2013, 07:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for setting up a thread.

Anybody planning to watch this thing live? I might just follow updates from the Internet. If the Raptors acquire a pick though, I will watch the draft.
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Thanks for setting up a thread.

Anybody planning to watch this thing live? I might just follow updates from the Internet. If the Raptors acquire a pick though, I will watch the draft.
if they acquire a pick it probably won't be until the draft gets started. I'll watch the first hour.
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if they acquire a pick it probably won't be until the draft gets started. I'll watch the first hour.
Yeah that's true. I wouldn't be able to know anyways, because I was planning on playing pickup basketball tomorrow evening.

I want to watch the first pick because it still isn't clear what Cleveland will do. It doesn't look like I will be back home by that time though.

In any case, the draft is not the most interesting thing to watch. I almost skipped my high school graduation last year to watch the draft. I'm glad I didn't because I was anticipating a Lowry trade in the draft. I think I would have destroyed my TV when they picked Ross over Drummond.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yep, even if the Raptors have a deal on the table already, it won't be announced until after the pick.

If for example the Raptors end up with the #1 and Bennett, he'll be wearing the Cavs hat and we probably won't know until some half an hour later.
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3 ROY candidates depending on the team they go on and injuries. not so much the other 3.
I think there's a good chance of a Marshon Brooks type of ROY candidate this year.

Remember when 2011 Marshon Brooks was scoring a bunch of points for a bad team and looked like a legit ROY candidate for a while? Then Kyrie and Rubio just pulled away as clear best rookies.

I think the whole next rookie season has a chance to be like that, just without a Kyrie Irving.
Rice and Shabazz are NBA ready physically and they should be able to score. If one of them ends up on a bad team and puts up 12-15 points a game, that might be enough.

And Otto Porter i think will be an instant pro. I've been wrong before plenty of times, but I think he'll just have impact. He'll be a valuable two-way role player that first year like Granger was and if he's on a solid playoff caliber team (Wizards or Cavs?), he'll get votes.
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So the draft actually starts at 730 eh? Shitty, I'm gonna miss it.
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Jay Bilas was on PTI today. Bilas said he's wouldn't characterize the whole draft as weak. The problem is simply that there aren't any clear cut top 5 picks, who would go top 5 in any draft. He said if you were to start the draft at #5, and pretend 4 guys had already been picked, then then this draft class wouldn't look bad. Furthermore, Bilas thinks there will probably be at least 2 all-stars from this draft; it's just unclear who will become those types of players. There is talent with question marks. And pretty much every year has some questions marks, but this year a few of them will get selected higher, like Len. In drafts with more depth at the top, Len probably slips outside the top 5.

So, if Bilas is right, this could turn out to be like the 2011 draft, which was also supposed to be "weak". There will be some good talent available. A lotto pick is nothing to sneeze at, and if we get one in a trade, Jeffb can buzz off with his "this is a weak draft! We don't need a pick!" comments.

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2 Discussion questions before draft.

1. Who does Cleveland pick at #1?

Many mock drafts are still undecided. NBADraft.net is going with Alex Len while DraftExpress and ESPN are going with Nerles Noel. A few days ago, McLemore was projected to go #1.

I always thought that Noel will go #1, but I'm not too sure anymore. I read an article where scouts are more concerned about his knee than originally expected.

2. Where does Shabazz Muhammed go?

He was once considered the consensus #1, but some mock drafts have him as low as #16. I think he has a lot of talent and has all star potential. If a team picks him up in the late lottery, it's going to be a steal for them imo.
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and if we get one in a trade, Jeffb can buzz off with his "this is a weak draft! We don't need a pick!" comments.
I can....................but I won't.
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