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LX 06-17-2011 04:32 PM

espn bloggers make their picks at 5
 
They do 1-4 as well - LINK

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5. Who should the Raptors take with the No. 5 pick?

Jay Aych, The Painted Area: Toronto needs to bolster its front line, so I'll take Valanciunas here. Great rebounder and finisher. Not sure he's a perfect fit for the defensively challenged Raptors, due to suspect post defense. Valanciunas does alter some shots with his length, but needs to add weight. A case for Brandon Knight could be made since Toronto needs help at the PG spot.


Hayes Davenport, CelticsHub.com: Kemba Walker. The Raptors have plenty of amorphous superathletes like Brandon Knight; they're better off with Walker running the break, because he's just as likely to get the ball to a teammate as to finish himself. He's not a great defender, but nobody in this draft is going to stop the Raptors from three-peating as the league's worst defensive team.


Patrick Hayes, Piston Powered.com: The Raptors could use a lead guard to pair with DeMar DeRozan in the backcourt, and the options are Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight. Knight's shooting ability and youth should make him the pick, and perhaps Jose Calderon's presence on the roster can help him learn the finer points of taking care of and distributing the ball.


John Krolik, Cavs: The Blog: Bismack Biyombo. This would be considered a huge reach, but hear me out for a little bit. By all accounts, Biyombo is a special, special defensive talent, and could be one of the best defensive players in the NBA almost right out of the gate. The Raptors finished dead last in defensive efficiency last season, and Biyombo is a player whom a defense could be built around.


Michael McNamara, Hornets 247: In this scenario, Toronto has its choice of point guards and I think the pick here should be Knight. Toronto has enough quality young scorers on its roster; what the Raptors need is an athletic PG who can feed those guys in transition. Knight fits the bill

Shack 06-17-2011 05:00 PM

ESPN dudes pick the top 5
 
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5. Who should the Raptors take with the No. 5 pick?

Jay Aych, The Painted Area: Toronto needs to bolster its front line, so I'll take Valanciunas here. Great rebounder and finisher. Not sure he's a perfect fit for the defensively challenged Raptors, due to suspect post defense. Valanciunas does alter some shots with his length, but needs to add weight. A case for Brandon Knight could be made since Toronto needs help at the PG spot.

Hayes Davenport, CelticsHub.com: Kemba Walker. The Raptors have plenty of amorphous superathletes like Brandon Knight; they're better off with Walker running the break, because he's just as likely to get the ball to a teammate as to finish himself. He's not a great defender, but nobody in this draft is going to stop the Raptors from three-peating as the league's worst defensive team.


Patrick Hayes, Piston Powered.com: The Raptors could use a lead guard to pair with DeMar DeRozan in the backcourt, and the options are Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight. Knight's shooting ability and youth should make him the pick, and perhaps Jose Calderon's presence on the roster can help him learn the finer points of taking care of and distributing the ball.

John Krolik, Cavs: The Blog: Bismack Biyombo. This would be considered a huge reach, but hear me out for a little bit. By all accounts, Biyombo is a special, special defensive talent, and could be one of the best defensive players in the NBA almost right out of the gate. The Raptors finished dead last in defensive efficiency last season, and Biyombo is a player whom a defense could be built around.


Michael McNamara, Hornets 247: In this scenario, Toronto has its choice of point guards and I think the pick here should be Knight. Toronto has enough quality young scorers on its roster; what the Raptors need is an athletic PG who can feed those guys in transition. Knight fits the bill.
Qiote diverse opinions. full article NBA Draft: Which players should first five teams in draft take? - ESPN

Dutches 06-17-2011 05:18 PM

NO way Valenciunas goes that early with his ridiculous buyout number attached to him.

I swear if BC pick him at 5th and we dont have another pick I'm gonna protest at the ACC.

WALKER/KNIGHT or BUST!!!

And Biyombo at 5th? :hahaha:

Someguy again 06-17-2011 05:22 PM

this john krolik dude is really sold on bismack

jeffb 06-17-2011 05:24 PM

Good to see there's a consensus from the experts. Lol

NaturallyStoned 06-17-2011 05:50 PM

They're not experts. They're just bloggers affiliated with ESPN.

Chiggmo 06-17-2011 06:40 PM

Knight will not make it to #5...

jeffb 06-17-2011 06:43 PM

This was already posted

Gofish 06-17-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NaturallyStoned (Post 549563)
They're not experts. They're just bloggers affiliated with ESPN.

Exactly. Not like all of us experts on RF.:rolleyes:

jepot 06-17-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NaturallyStoned (Post 549563)
They're not experts. They're just bloggers affiliated with ESPN.

http://www.forum.trshady.com/images/...s/facepalm.gif
reread post above yours lol

IGetAir 06-18-2011 02:25 AM

This just goes to show how open this draft really is in terms of who goes where.
Especially starting at 5, because I don't think Knight will be available then.

RaptorsFan4Life 06-18-2011 02:51 AM

BC better get Bismack. He's absolutely everything we need. Jose might not be an amazing defender but he is a pretty decent PG (overall, good/pretty good when healthy) for at least another year (especially considering next years draft has MUCH better PGs). Bismack right out of the gate will increase out blocks per game, rebound and def efficiency. He might not be the best offensive player but he can take it to the basket and him being only 18 we could probably develop that side of the game but even if we don't we don't really need another Bargnani...

BTW I really don't say why people say not to draft someone because it's too high. It's such a retarded argument. When you have a guy that does EVERYTHING you need, good work ethic and arguably one of the highest potentials in the draft there is no reason not to draft him.

jrob23 06-18-2011 10:03 AM

why are they so confident in Knight falling to 5? lol like every mock has him going to Utah or the odd one has Cleveland drafting Williams and then Knight at the 4

Bismack at 5? interesting.. he is what this team needs even though he is so raw offensively, but if we can start playing him right away and he can be a difference on the court i'm all for it.

this team isn't gonna change it's margin of victories very much from last season and next year there are some good PG's Kabongo, Rivers, Teague, that will fall outside of the top since ther are so many good SF/PF's

raptorchick 06-18-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RaptorsFan4Life (Post 549700)
BC better get Bismack. He's absolutely everything we need. Jose might not be an amazing defender but he is a pretty decent PG (overall, good/pretty good when healthy) for at least another year (especially considering next years draft has MUCH better PGs). Bismack right out of the gate will increase out blocks per game, rebound and def efficiency. He might not be the best offensive player but he can take it to the basket and him being only 18 we could probably develop that side of the game but even if we don't we don't really need another Bargnani...

BTW I really don't say why people say not to draft someone because it's too high. It's such a retarded argument. When you have a guy that does EVERYTHING you need, good work ethic and arguably one of the highest potentials in the draft there is no reason not to draft him.

But what if you didn't have to pick him at that spot? Most mock drafts have him between 10-20 so couldn't you trade down and get him plus pick up an extra pick/player?

RaptorsFan4Life 06-18-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by raptorchick (Post 549724)
But what if you didn't have to pick him at that spot? Most mock drafts have him between 10-20 so couldn't you trade down and get him plus pick up an extra pick/player?

Is it worth the risk though? I don't see us picking up anyone that great from trading down. We probably would get a 2nd round pick or a meh roll player.

EggsToTheBBQ 06-20-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutches (Post 549556)
NO way Valenciunas goes that early with his ridiculous buyout number attached to him.

I swear if BC pick him at 5th and we dont have another pick I'm gonna protest at the ACC.

WALKER/KNIGHT or BUST!!!

And Biyombo at 5th? :hahaha:

One of the bloggers has Valanciunas going at 3 to Utah.

Two of them have Valanciunas going to Cleveland at 4. Including the blogger from Cleveland.

That makes 4/5 that have him going top 5.

He's a serious talent and his game is a great fit for the NBA. He doesn't need to learn to do things differently to be successful like some other picks - he just needs to get better at what he's already doing. He doesn't have any injury history to speak of, and has performed at a high level in competition routinely over the past couple of years. The national program he plays for has had a lot of success recently, and the style of play for the Lithuanian team seems (to me) to be more North American than most other European national teams. In a lot of ways there's less uncertainty around Valanciunas than Kanter, for example. If teams think his buyout can be resolved they'll pick him top 5. I would love to see Valanciunas picked by the Raptors, but I have a feeling he won't be there.

I think someone will fall to the Raptors, and they'll pick based on talent. If Utah goes with Knight/Walker I could see Kanter falling to the Raptors, which I'd also be happy with.

I agree about Biyombo, though. 5 is a big reach for him.

EggsToTheBBQ 06-20-2011 11:46 AM

Who should the Jazz take with the No. 3 pick?

Patrick Hayes, Piston Powered.com: The Jazz have talented players under contract in the frontcourt in Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap, but unfortunately, both are undersized. Jonas Valanciunas makes them significantly bigger and, hopefully down the road. His hands and ability to catch and finish in the paint would be a nice complement next to Millsap or Jefferson.

Who should the Cavaliers take with the No. 4 pick?

Hayes Davenport, CelticsHub.com: Valanciunas. If Kanter's available, he goes here. But he's not, and Cleveland might actually be better off. Valanciunas is a unique combination of height, finesse and energy, and he's undercooked enough for the Cavs to mold him into a player that fits their needs. He's skinny, but I saw the "Captain America" trailer: We have the technology.

John Krolik, Cavs: The Blog: Valanciunas. I love Jonas' game. He has true center size, loves playing defense and hitting the glass, rolls to the basket and looks to finish, and knocks down free throws as well as any center at any level of basketball. I think this is a no-brainer pick for the Cavs if he's available.


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